Australian Response

Can of worms activity that: https://www.spacer.com.au/blog/population-density-how-does-australia-compare-to-the-rest-of-the-world

Well done Nz! Keep doing it indefinitely!

''This week, Dancose found herself waiting in vain behind 17,000 others in an online queue. New Zealanders desperate to return to their home country are forced each week or so to enter a lottery for coveted beds in quarantine hotels.

As part of its effort to minimise the spread of the coronavirus, New Zealand requires all returning citizens and residents - whether vaccinated or not - to spend 14 days isolating in a hotel run by the military.

Because demand is far outstripping supply, New Zealanders are being locked out indefinitely, despite the right of return enshrined in New Zealand's constitutional arrangements and in international law.

The quarantine system remains in place despite New Zealand's government acknowledging this week that it can no longer wipe out the virus''

NSW are the first state to announce lifting quarantine & travel restrictions on fully vaccinated Australian residents & citizens to & from the state from November 1st. Tourism sector to come later as part of a managed reopening.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-15/nsw-ditching-quarantine-for-international-travellers-explained/100541924

Apparently NSW will have over 95% adults vaccinated in 10 days, 70% of over 12s in a month and starting under 12s next month.

How is this allowed? Murdoch and his tabloid values are as big a presence, or even bigger, in the Australian media than in the UK media.

Well, it's understandable. People die because other people refuse to act responsibly. Naturally, a degree of upset results.

This particular guy is not just unvaccinated. He is infected and extremely ill. He is currently in hospital on high-flow oxygen, and today is expected to deteriorate to a point where he will be admitted to ICU in the next 24 hours.

None of that would attract any particular odium. The real issue is that he crossed the border illegally, travelling to Sydney and Melbourne, and then illegally re-entered Queensland, having picked up the infection. He was infectious in the community for 10 days before being hospitalised. He has not been observing the Covid check-in requirements - another breach of the law - which makes it difficult to track his movements and so identify the people he has put at risk, and he is now too ill to speak and so cannot tell contact-tracers where he has been. Other states are now raising the travel barriers against Queensland, and a local lockdown is being considered.

Basically, he has acted with selfish disregard for the consequences his behaviour might have for others and a lot of people are being inconvenienced, and some have been exposed to real danger, as a result.

None of this is to justify the name-and-shame vigilantism of the Murdoch press - but that's the Murdoch press for you. And the situation may not be quite as bad as they paint. At the time the article that ceadaoin links to was published, it wasn't publicly known how sick the guy was. Medics are now saying that, while they still don't know where he was in the 10 days between re-entering Queensland and being admitted to hospital, for most of that time it's likely that he was too sick to be out and about much, so the number of people who have been exposed to contact with him is probably small.

Missed this one from last week. Are there concrete plans to use these or donate them, especially as it says donations are falling ?

Hmm are you asking if Australia are planning on donating these to Ireland? It looks like the express train you mentioned a few months ago failed to stop at the booster platform or did they just run out of money again? Ireland now admittedly on the back foot now as they don’t seem to have boosters for everyone. Question is… is it enough to save Xmas?

in a funny old world I’m booked in for my booster on 6th Dec since it’s open to everyone here, and my folks are flying out on 17th December for a few months away from possibility of more lockdowns and sitting at home watching a candle because there’s no electricity.

Your basing this opinion on something you read in the Mail Online? And you think Andrews is the threat?

More than 25,000 cases in Australia today