Climate Bolloxolgy.

Notice the vegans have moved from almond and soya milk to oat milk now ( transport around the world not so green !) How many acres would you need for a glass of milk ?. ( whats left would be a good cattle feed so silver lining and all that). Saw someone asked on tv about reducing irish cattle herd being replaced by increases elsewhere saying " oh, we'll deal with that with trade deals" (sounded like Trump at his best) Reckon life will go on as normal after a while with no objections to the like of fracking if it interferes with standard of living. Problem with world population now is people in poorer countries want our standard of living and hard to blame them

I'm surprised that the reduction was so little considering that air travel was more or less none existent. Most office workers/teachers etc were confined to working from home so I assume it maybe due to the extra requirement for electricity generation/data centers. I remember during the height of the lockdown driving on the M3/N3 with a load of cattle (essential service) and I counted 4 cars and 30 odd 40' trucks.

Then stop putting it squarely on the Greens shoulders to identify and advocate for solutions. FG signed Ireland up to the Paris Agreement, FF, supported them doing so. Everyone in a position of power seems to acknowledge the need for action. Only one group on the fringe of power is advocated for doing something.

It's an abdication of responsibility for any one else who sees a problem but then turns towards the Greens to come up with a solution and to then lambast them for it not being pain free or an immediate fix.

Why don't they allocate it to the country that the planes diesel up in?

I certainly wouldn’t turn to them to fix it. If you read my post correctly you would see that I am advocating more moderate solutions from both sides

Funny you should say that. We were talking about house prices and the environment in one of our usual drunk discussions.

A vegan friend said to another friend that his beer had a huge carbon footprint. He pointed out that he was drinking a craft beer from this very county from a glass, while the vegan was drinking a bottle of Carlsberg. The vegan ordered a coffee to sober up before the wife collected him.

It then descended into us asking the vegan what was the carbon footprint of his coffee and his soya milk. Needless to say we didnt have any answers but it was fun.

It's ironic that the abolition of milk quota by the EU has been the driver for the increase in dairy cattle and now we're being told we need to reduce numbers.

According to the the FAQ below this increase was foreseen and dare I say welcomed as it would supply demand which was seen as increasing intothe future. That was only 5 years ago.

The farmers are an easy scapegoat as it's easy to say get rid of the belching cows because it only directly impacts a minority, it's not so easy to say get rid of the second car in every house or you can only go on a foreign holiday every other year rather than twice a year.

I’d rather the cows to a plane trip

Well, if there's no quotas , and CAP changes bring about reductions In tillage then I can see a big increase In dairy in the near future-

Of course pig and poultry have very low levels of emissions especially if you feed imported feed ...🙄🤔

Being an island we are even more dependent on air connectivity than the rest of EU.

With our long history of emigration and our tourist industry in mind we should think long and hard before joining in any moves to reduce access to air travel.

Boom. There ya go. Lets not curtail flying, but cut back on the one thing we do very well and sustainably - produce food!

If it comes down to mandatory reductions on the dairy herd, how much compensation per head would ye be happy with?

Please try to be realistic…!

Endorsements by the Eu commission and now ipcc. Get the Irish government on board now.

So you mean that with our long history of food production also we should not be leading the charge to reduce output without considering the consequences of that either? I think I saw during the week something like 3,000 jobs could be lost but it seems that's considered an acceptable price to pay.

If we're concerned about emissions we may have to look at whether international travel for tourism purposes is realistic. For example a weekend break in Brussels may have to become one in Belfast.

Edit: this link says 2,800 - 6,000 jobs lost from a reduction in the dairy industry depending on the scenario.

Check this out on Agriland - Climate council report predicts less cattle and lower output https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/climate-council-report-predicts-less-cattle-and-lower-output/

But it does seem to be…

There is a climate report that lists the impact of a 50% cut in the Irish herd, to reduce methane…

I don’t think the same climate report had a 50% reduction in flights… (we aren’t even counting plane emissions at present are we?)

Now - how is that not one vs the other?