Is religion merely failed science?

Good point and good post.

I should use the word evidence and to go further science mostly has theories which can of course be proven wrong should further evidence to the contrary be found.

Religion tends to have dogma which is taken to be correct. In science I am only familiar with the central dogma of molecular biology which I won't say is unique (I could be wrong) but it is certainly rare in it's use though I don't believe it was intended to be dogmatic.

He forgot 3 and 4. To control and keep women down, and to make money from the poor.

Oooh, the irony. I'm not the one using religious dogma as a thought-terminating cliche. That's not discussion.

I'm not seeing any openness whatsoever from you to anything which contradicts biblical literalism. You dismiss science using logically incorrect fallacies.

You need to educate yourself as to the scientific meaning, as opposed to the everyday meaning, of the word "theory". Gravity is a theory, but you still fall down.

The theory of evolution is a fact, and an observed fact. Incidentally it is accepted as factual by many churches, including the Roman Catholic Church and they believe in the same bible you do.

You'd need to provide some evidence if you expect anyone to entertain such an assertion - oh and explain why the masses of evidence discovered since should be ignored. But this isn't supposed to be a creationism thread. Listening to creationists trot out their failed arguments and downright disingenuousness again and again is just so boring.

Religion is not “failed science”. It’s not a science at all.

Science relies on fact, religion relies upon the stupidity of man.

Now you are misrepresenting what evolution is. But by all means feel free to disprove it with valid observations and deductions - that is what the scientific method is about, after all. Trying to squash reality to fit within the confines of your bible isn't going to work.

Really?

That'll be news to biologists, so. You can observe evolution in action - the results of 'survival of the fittest' in some species - in as little as 15 generations. There was even a story on (I think) the RTÉ news app recently (as in literally the last week), about some herds of elephants being observed to no longer grow tusks. Survival of the fittest in effect - the ones with big, long tusks get poached. The ones with smaller/no tusks live longer, therefore breed more, therefore spread their genes more.

Try reading some Dawkins. No, really. His biology books give many more real-world, proven examples. I can't remember which book offhand I read, probably one of 'The Greatest Show on Earth', or 'The Selfish Gene', but he gives examples of observed rapid evolution. There's the famous silver fox experiment: The silver fox domestication experiment | Evolution: Education and Outreach | Full Text (biomedcentral.com)

Dawkins outlines another experiment where dark-coloured fish are taken from a river with a dark riverbed and introduced to a river with a light-coloured riverbed. Within a few generations, their offspring have evolved to also be light-bodied.

So yeah, evolution is real, and observable.

Judging by your other posts, you should also try to understand what the word "theory" means when you're talking about scientific theories. It doesn't mean what you think it means.

Good post. Anyone who uses terms like "scientifically proven", are not scientists. Maybe in marketing or such like

Science is confined to the scientific method, as you explained, but that is its strength.

Religion like philosophy proposes ideas and thoughts, which can be very useful in it's own right in helping to understand the human condition. Science must follow empirical evidence. This does not allow for dogmatic truth.

We are ultimately limited by our intellect (when I say our intellect I mean really smart people) so the entire workings of the universe may be beyond us, but that is OK. However it is only through scientific investigation that we will understand as much as is humanly possible.

The usual "but religious people live longer" crapola - comparing people who are able to regularly get out of the house and meet their peers with people who can't (or won't), and then coming to the conclusion they desperately wanted.

Just getting out of the house and meeting people on a regular / daily basis is good for you. Nothing whatsoever to do with religion.

Carrying out the miracle of turning wine into water 😁

Battling religion constantly is probably not going to do your mental health much good.

Ah, irony. A metal, like goldy and silvery.

Well, y'see - there's people who follow religion. Some of those would be the kind of judgemental, hypocritical **** who'd use terms like "bunch of gaa twats" about people they don't know.

(Personally, I'd rather not be like that.)

Then there's the communities formed around hobbies and shared interests, the arts, sports clubs - yes, including gaa - where people from all walks of life start off being there there for a common shared interest, that often develop into genuine, lifelong, friendships and real communities. Tends to be less hypocrites around, too.

That can absolutely happen in churches and organised religions, of course. Rare enough, though, where people turn up once a week for an hour, in my experience, but it can happen.

Religion is about power, money and access to children.

Some people are so far down the rabbit hole they see the catholic domination of state-funded health and education services here as entirely normal.

People looking for a neutral education for their kids i.e. without religious propaganda-as-fact are regarded as "weirdos" and constantly insulted and belittled on this site (ironically often by people who call themselves catholic but rarely bother to see the inside of a church)

96% of primary schools in this country are controlled by a church. That's insane in a supposedly developed country.

Yeah? The parents, spectators, coaches and officials are busy raping kids, imprisoning them for forced labour in Magdalene Laundries, conducting illegal adoptions from Mother and Baby Homes and filling up septic tanks with the bodies of those they were supposed to be looking after? Get a grip, you f'n gowl.