Harry and Meghan - OP updated with Threadbanned Users 4/5/21

I didn’t know there was a drama of any kind until NBC news reported on it. It seems the British lot seems to have more drama where the others in Europe at least seem to not have family fallings out and less drama.

It's beginning to look a lot like Christma$.

She's becoming more like Fergie now than Diana!

Report shows Meghan is facing a co-ordinated campaign of online hate and racism against her

Pretty sad that some people have so much hatred in them that they spend their days online abusing someone who has little consequence to their own lives.

So it's exclusively the racism which makes her a target? Well, that's your prerogative to believe that. It's all about her character to my mind. I've been called a racist elsewhere for simply criticising them. It get's thrown around like toilet paper by those supportive of them. Others might see it as Meghan and Harry as being tone deaf hypocrites whose tragic and epic narcissism provokes interest in much the same way a car crash draws interest. The worst kind of celebrity and there are people who aren't hateful but also not shy in calling them out. Yes, there are the balmpots who believe in the guff like surrogates being used and there are racists who hate them but people who are merely criticising them articulately and accurately are even accused of having unconcious bias and are unknowingly racist. It's that kind of desperation which makes it all fascinating as to why people go to bat for them. Lumping anyone uttering a word of crticism or observation into generic categories of hate or racism is ridiculous and deserves to be scorned. For example, there is a body language guy in YT who posts videos. He does videos on Harry and Meghan and there is now a concerted effort underway to shut him down from cashing in on hate and racism towards them. The thing is that he does the very same videos for many other high profile people as well. Whatever it is about those sussex squad goons it comes across as almost cult like. Why wasn't he cancelled after a litany of videos on Amber Heard, Johnny Depp, Elizabeth Holmes etc. etc.??

See the latest video of Meghan reading her book on YT. Still using her Duchess title bestowed on her by the "racist" royals. It's even used on that video whose audience is exclusively young kids who likely haven't an iota of interest or even know what highfalutin' titles like Duchess are or mean. Jamie Lee Curtis, for example, is a Baroness. I've never seen her use that title from british nobility. Why? Probably because she lives and works in the US where the title is meaningless and she likely doesn't want to come across as a self-absorbed person by insisting on using it. Curtis wrote a childrens book too. Note the pen name she used.

The video has 11k dislikes against 6k likes. I suppose there is a co-ordinated campaign of hate on YT as well? There isn't of course.

PR fantasy? Their PR company included representing the likes of Harvey Weinstein. They'll take on such people so long as the cheques keep clearing. Representing Harry and Meghan is basic work in comparison and them conducting such an underhanded exercise with some grifter duping "sugars" into giving him money for his project is just the kind of thing they do in trying to polish a turd and is quite plausible. At least Sunshine Sachs are clever enough to get paid when they (bizarrely) keep coming up short on that end.

it's a mix of racism from a minority but it's mostly the fact they upped and left and dared to make their own life instead of staying in the uk like a good little man and woman so the masses can faun over them.

the same masses who disliked william and kate and who now love them because they aren't harry and meghan, but who would be back fauning over meghan and harry if they returned to being working royals.

you will have to ask those supposably canceling this individual doing the videos as to why they aren't canceling him over others.

meghan is a dutchess so why shouldn't she use the title? of course she should, the fact there may have been issues of racism within the rf is of no consequence to the titles she has been given, as both are a separate issue, and whatever racism that may exist does not equate to every single member being racist.

pr companies represent all sorts of people, that's their job, i would expect nothing less, and they are going to have to be paid which is the norm for anyone using a service.

anyway, i am satisfied there is no big conspiracy here and it is more likely to be as the article says.

Well the fact they left in the thread about it here(not this one)was largely in support of them leaving so that’s incorrect. It’s the stuff they’ve said and done since that move that’s the problem. They made claims of racism that between the two of them they couldn’t get straight which you’d think if something as serious as what was alleged happened, you’d remember it. I’ve had stuff not even remotely rising to the level of what they allege and I can tell you it about it in detail to this day but Harry and Meghan couldn’t even get the number of times racist comments were said correct ? Right okay.

what masses disliked William and Kate exactly ? A hint of whataboutism there because I don’t recall ever hearing about mass dislike of them. They may have found them boring but that’s not dislike.

Yes, she is a duchess but the daughter of the king of Sweden is a princess and she lives in America and she doesn’t use her title in America even though she was born into royalty. And why would you use a title given to you by an organisation which you had to leave due to claims of racism and lack of care. Wouldn’t you want to remove any reminder of that organisation ?

And there were the mistruths about why their son didn’t get a title and their marriage which were verifiably false.

the mistruths about the titles for their son weren't deliberate but a misunderstanding over the issue.

not a big deal in reality really and i wouldn't dwell on or worry about it.

So whats your argument then, its okay to call her a whore? Did you not read the report?

The rest of your post is fantasy PR as EOTR said, this research was not commissioned by Harry & Meghan, it was done by Bot Sentinal who are a non partisan group who set up to analyse hate, racism and disinformation on Twitter. Its a piece of software based on machine learning and artificial intelligence that identifies users who break Twitters own code of conduct and then they highlight it through the media and on Twitter itself. They were set up after the 2016 US Presidential election where Russian bot farms were used to spread hate and lies about Hillary Clinton and to put Trump into the White House. So Im not sure why you are attacking them when they simply analyze tweets that literally break Twitters own rules.

Online hatred is a very real thing, yet you are being so dismissive of the reality that Bot Sentinal found. If a poster here on Boards called someone a whore or the N word they would be banned, and rightly so. Yet you seem to be defending it happening on another platform and basically making up lies that Meghan and her PR team commissioned this report when no such thing happened, that in itself is disinformation.

This is part of a bigger problem of social media companies allowing hate and racism on their platforms becasue they know it draws clicks and it makes them huge profits. Twitter leave up posts containing hatred and racism that break their own terms of service while simultaneously taking down and deleting videos of Premier League goals in literally less than 2 minutes after they are scored and tweeted. They do that because if they dont delete them in jig time Sky, Fox and NBC will sue them for copyright violation, as well they know. So they already have the tools to tackle this problem of online hate yet if you call someone a whore or the N word on Twitter it is left up there forever.

This stuff needs to stop and the big social media companies have to be reigned in, we dont need or want another Caroline Flack situation to develop There was a further two suicides out of Love Island as well, again based on online hate. Online hate has real life and serious consequences and it needs to be called out before more suicides happen.

It doesnt matter if people disagree with Meghans actions or that of any famous person. At the the end of the day she is still a human being and she is entitled not to be abused and made a figure of hatred, as are we all. People need to think before they type.

A misunderstanding ? She’d been in the royal family for a couple of years at that point. Surely her husband or anyone else would have informed her when she was pregnant as to the rules around whether her unborn child would get a title and the reasons why not.

In isolation it’s not in itself a big deal, it’s when it’s taken together with other at best misunderstandings, and worst lies that it becomes a big deal because it shows a pattern that Harry and Meghan can’t be trusted.

yes, they state facts that ar known and which most of us grasp, but which a minority refuse to do so.

if that is jumping on a bandwagon then we are all guilty of that every time we state facts.

none of the misunderstandings say anything about either of them or whether they can or can't be trusted in reality since misunderstandings are just that, and we are all guilty of misunderstandings from time to time, whether it be taking up something that was said incorrectly, or misheard something, or whatever.

it's just humanity really.

Did you miss the part where I said there will always be baseless hatred? Such hatred will always be targeted towards ANY high profile person in the social media age and it's not contained to Harry or Meghan. Some sick minded people will always have access to and abuse social media and tackling it is a major problem. Their content demands condemnation. My point is that measured opinions and takes based on their words, actions and behaviour just seem to get lumbered into a generic classification of hatred along with the sick minded stuff. It's not that black and white but doing so allows any criticism to be explained away with such generic accusations of hate. Hate wasn't defined in the report. Quite deliberately. That's a part of cancel culture that is discomfiting i.e. simply saying someone is a hypocrite and you're defined as a hater, racist etc. F*ck rightly off with that deflective BS. You have sick minded people posting about how Harry and Meghan are only one plane crash away from taking the throne. The disturbing and insane material isn't dedicated to them alone.

The Bot Sentinel report is taking the very worst and deliberately, to my mind, defining it as the norm. That is simply untrue. Any motivated person could conjure up similar. Even the likes of Steven Spielberg or Tom Hanks are called pedofiles online. Two of the most reputable people in La La Land. It comes with the territory unfortunately. Would me creating a report along such lines represent reality or would it be deliberately leaning towards the insane, balmpot, deranged side of the social media spectrum? Hint, it's the latter assuming I had an agenda which suggests I must lean that way.

Social media companies are another topic but Harry and Meghan were recently pitching an investment group which is predicated on ethical investing. This firm invests in social media/internet companies like Facebook ($6.9 million), Alphabet ($32 million) and, indeed, Twitter ($2 million). In light of the Bot Sentinel report and considering that Twitter is profiting as you say from these primary and secondary hate accounts identified within it then they will obviously be immediately dissolving their partnership with this firm? Until such time as Twitter is deemed ethical? This company isn't investing their $2 million in the hope that it goes to $0 after all.