Will there be another lockdown?

Stuck in a bus in quays Dublin, protest walking up road, I am guessing covid related? Looks pretty small numbers wise couple of hundred maybe.

Not covid related it's a our the cobblestone pub

What?

Ultimately that's what's gonna happen and is happening as we speak.

They are letting it rip through the kids.

Cases have been high for ages now, not sure why people are wetting themselves and salivating over another lockdown after today's numbers.

Another conspiracy theory I suspect 🙄

Yep but "protecting the health service" narrative will once again become prevalent

Joe public can do **** all about it and the question of 'what did the HSE do the last 18 months to fix it ?'

Parents were dismissed as morons by the powers that be that children in schools would bring home sickness with them

even though we knew it would happen like it does like clockwork every year

Hospital and icu numbers dropping but the country still obsessed with cases!!

What is the percentage that ends up in hospital after a couple of weeks of the daily number

trying to think back but it’s not coming to me

If vaccine waning is true A lot of that cohort are getting their boosters including over 60’s from next week.

Precisely, next week!!! , TODAY'S figures nearly 3,000.

Boosters I'm afraid are looking increasingly likely for most of the population and that's not going to happen in weeks.

Take some time to actually look at my posts regarding lockdowns, actually if time allows check other covid threads on my stance on lockdowns.

You appear to be part of a cohort who resent correction, explanations of facts ,turning them into wild accusations levelled towards people like me seeking to understand what is going on.

These attempts to deflect by accusing others as a deranged sect longing for lockdowns proves an abject inability to debate,discuss unless your point of view is accepted. Snide, silly and incoherent comments achieve little.

Won't wash with me I'm afraid. Good night

I think it's horse de-wormer time!

Just hand out some horse de-wormer to everyone in the audience, and let us all get on with living our lives.

It'll be like when they gave everyone those iodine tablets way back when. Nobody needed them, but it did help to calm down the more nervous members of society. The hysteria subsided, and people got on with their lives.

Ah i'd say those people are few and far between. They exist, but I wouldn't say there's loads. Most people just want to see the back of this and some might just have different views on restrictive measures.

Clearly you've not actually bothered to check my posting history but even if you did, I'm entitled to ask ligitimate questions.

I've never whinged about anything, I've offered or questioned data. Quoted and attached articles, I've not once called for lockdown and have openly stated as someone who is NOT a parent, I don't have the answer's re schools but feel schools will stay open albeit solutions have to be found, I further stated quite categorically I don't believe we'll see a return to lockdown but have ligitmately questioned the decision to re open night clubs with cases so high, your entitled to disagree. And yes, I believe some additional measures may be needed, call them restrictions if you will, I call them practical solutions. There has to be a middle ground.

I freely admit I've got concerns about Vacinne protection waning, this is not disputed by the experts but I believe the excuses or should I say blame game has been outrageous, demonising certain cohorts has a distasteful aspect to it, has history not thought us anything.

I don't subscribe to attacking fellow posters because they have different views, I pose a question, enquire about data seeking answers like most other reasonable people, I do not assume to have alll the answers but will certainly question something I believe is clearly wrong. There is absolutely no evidence of a determined effort to use children to achieve herd immunity, there is ample evidence of incompetence and mixed messaging that I'll grant you, if I'm proven wrong, I'll be the first to apologise.

We can agree to disagree without the need to personalise the discussion.

Let's leave it at that

I’m not attacking you. I was curious as to exactly what you wanted from your posts. It appears you’re talking from each side of the mouth. On one side you’re saying you are not advocating lockdowns or restrictions but coming from the other side it appears you are. The main example is your horror of letting kids spreading the virus between them when someone suggested the government was going for herd immunity . Your reaction to yesterdays cases and vaccine waning. Not to mention your post about hospitalisations will be rising. Then your reply to my post about the boosters. So what’s your solution to all of the above if it all horrifies you?

Regarding vaccines waning, it would seem there is evidence of initial antibodies do wane. That’s actually to be expected. The result is you would more likely become symptomatic. However there isn’t much waning when it comes to protecting from serious illness and death. It’s still quite strong. If you want cases to drop ( seems most are obsessed with this metric) boosters are the way to go. The results in Israel are very good despite only 62% of their population are fully vaccinated.