Acceptable Covid death rates

nphet aren't restricting anything now really.

masks, vaccine passports, not really restrictions and not a big deal, they protect the public from those who refuse to get the vaccine because facebook or da gubament.

we are able to live our lives to the full now, we actually may have been able to do so a lot earlier if it wasn't for a tiny minority who were set on ruining everything for the rest of us.

sorry but those vulnerable have a right to live their lives as well as us and it is not up to them to stay locked up forever so you don't have to wear a mask, or wash your hands which is something grown ups should know to be doing anyway.

in that case, restrictions would need to remain so as to insure as much as is possible, those who hav got all vaccines, and where required boosters, are protected from people like you who refuse to get one because da gubament, you being the perfect example of people i mentioned in 2 previous posts.

and all for something the government, no government would be able to give you, but which could only be given when the evidence shows they can be removed full stop.

for someone so anti-restrictions you actually seem to want them to continue and seem to want to try and ruin things for the rest of us, something which ultimately you are going to fail at in the end, because the majority of us who have been and will be sensible around this, will ultimately win.

we would be able to remove them a lot quicker, yes .

mask wearing in public might need to stay, at least at certain times of the year but realistically that's barely a restriction anyway.

and it would help even greater, those who cannot get a vaccine due to medical reasons or for which the vaccine genuinely won't work.

in public means in public.

the evidence that the restrictions will be removed is that they have removed many of them and they lifted some at various times throughout the pandemic.

covering faces is natural, i have saw plenty of people more or less doing it for years, granted nothing to do with a virus etc, but most definitely done whether it be because they are cold or whatever.

No it isn't. It's you losing credibility.

19 months is not 24 months.

7 months is not a year.

If your employer gave you 80% of your wages would you accept it?

Where are you exactly ? On the tube in London , in Sweden , in Moscow? Sounds like you are not that restricted at all , more power to you !

Ireland has Covid Certs, btw , not vaccine passports

So why is wearing masks in some circumstances and presenting Covid Certs for entry to indoor hospitality for a while more such an issue then ," in the grand scheme of things " ?

There is no booster shots for Ireland yet and not looking like any for the general population for a while.

Is your reason for not getting vaccinated because the government told you to do so, or facebook fearmongering? Seems a pretty silly reason to have to live a restricted life.

I'd love for this to be correct, but the only way this works is if we stop treating those who are in certain categories and that's not likely to happen (for many reasons). An obese person who gets sick because of SARS-COV2 and exacerbated by being obese takes up just as many hospital resources as someone who lives well but happens to be susceptible for COVID. Unless there is a lot more hospital capacity added, "acceptable covid deaths" cannot occur unless treatment is denied to people which means restrictions until hospitalisations and ICU numbers drop.

If those numbers rise too much we will have excess deaths due to denying treatment to some.

A cluster broke out near me and I caught it , it definitely came from a unvaxed crowd I know , and confidently say it would not have been as serious had they all been vaxxed, horrible bug

I was under the impression you could set up an AIB account at home but I could be wrong.

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