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Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,278 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Remember when the right-leaning PBA warned that the vaccine mandate for NYPD would take tens of thousands of officers off the streets?

    Only 34 left.




  • Registered Users Posts: 13,450 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    In addition, the vaccine mandate in NYC spiked (in a good way) the percentage vaccinated across all city employees:


    The FDNY has a 77% vaccination rate, up from 58% when the mandate was announced. The city Department of Sanitation vaccination rate rose to 83% from 62%. Emergency Management Services went to 88% from 61%.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2021/11/01/us/new-york-city-vaccine-mandate-first-responder-shortage/index.html

    More than 4x as many police officers have died from Covid versus gunfire since the start of the pandemic (over 400)



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,118 ✭✭✭Melanchthon


    Seems to clash with this article? Admittedly this is earlier. I presume it's too soon to tell really if the mandate was Friday how many would even be caught by it at this stage.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    That's just who have left as of now. There are some applying for exemptions. Not tens of thousands though I'm sure. A few thousand maybe.

    9000 city workers are on unpaid leave and 12000 have applied for exemptions overall. 85% of NYPD have had at least 1 shot. 1 in 6 are unvaccinated and all except for those 34 who left want exemptions




  • Registered Users Posts: 38,225 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Well the sleeping thing is unimportant. And even if he was tired it's not surprising with the amount of time he is working.

    On the electric car scenario. Security is the main concern. You'd have to be certain that there's no way to zap the energy from the battery before it could be even considered. They can do a great job protecting against weapons they know about but not ones they know nothing about.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,450 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    New York has more than 300,000 city employees.

    HTH



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Yes, and? I was just pointing out that more than 34 are effected, so that claim is inaccurate. I never claimed it was 10s of thousands or made any comment beyond that. Thanks for your help though 🙄



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,278 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    You didn't proveanything, you confirmed my article that said only 34 had left and then posted two opinion pieces by the usual windbags, yet nothing to dispute that figure. try again



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,196 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    I hate to be a bore, but what does this have to do with Biden? He isn’t Mayor of NYC.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,118 ✭✭✭Melanchthon


    Isn't the issue with the New York mandate compared to the Federal Mandate is that there isn't an option for opting for a rigorous testing routine instead of vacination? So not really a federal thing.

    Its an aside but it would be interesting which is better for the public interacting with these employees (vacination is obviously better for employees themselves) as vaccinated do spread Delta albeit at lower rates however is someone who is instead getting regular testing more or less likely to cause spread than a vaccinated non testing person.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,450 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Which is likely to cost the taxpayer less? A vaccine dose, or repeated testing. This is what municipalities should consider.

    FWIW given the huge percentage of NYers who were infected in the first wave I think there may be some luck involved even with the anti-vax public servants, though of course even if you were infected, you're less likely to contract and spread the disease if you are vaccinated.


    Testing lags spreading, you're likely to spread plenty before being tested (esp. if you've had the disease already which again was very common in NYC last year, among other reasons because of the inept handling of the airport closure by the previous administration).



  • Registered Users Posts: 39,853 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    So today there are elections in Virginia and New Jersey for governor(and more in Virginia) and while not directly tied to president Biden they will be an indication of how his approval ratings which have fallen will actually hurt the two democrats in former governor terry mcauliffe in Virginia and New Jersey governor Phil Murphy. And with the midterm elections nearly exactly a year from now, this will You’d assume that if the GOP win one or both of the states, they it may finally focus the democrats minds of trying to not look so dysfunctional on a national level which is how it looks to me. They make heavy going out of stuff that should be easy.



  • Posts: 13,688 Andrea Strong Rodent


    Reconciliation Bill

    Paid Family & Sick Leave - Gone (originally 12 weeks, then 4 and now f*ck all)

    Lower Drug Prices - Gone

    Dental & Vision Medicare Expansion - Gone

    Free Community College (one of Biden's big campaign issues vs. Bernie's free tuition) - Gone


    Good auld corporate Joe and his reaching across the aisle. A total and utter dereliction of duty.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Why not ask the person who brought it up in the first place?



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Well they weren't opinion pieces, but PBS are the 'usual windbags' now? Ok, lol 👍



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,321 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    I would find it incredibly unlikely that the GOP would make any headway in New Jersey. Virginia is a toss-up, which itself is a problem for Democrats: Biden won VA by 10. There are quite a few notes of interest. Firstly, both candidates have been largely staying away from the two 'figureheads' for the two parties. Biden has kept away entirely, and the GOP candidate has generally distanced himself from the Trump stupidity. The GOP guy in particular has been focusing his messaging on Virginia. Also of curiosity, African-Americans make up 20% of the voting populace, the only black person on the ticket is the GOP's LT Governor candidate, a rifle-toting (former Marine) woman. On the other hand, the Dem Lt Gov candidate is a hispanic lass with a US Coast Guard background. It'll be interesting to see if that has any effect, there is a very large Navy/Marine component to Virginia's electorate. The LtG is elected separately to the Governor, so it's possible for the one party to win one position, and the other to win the other position, which could make things interesting in a few years when the LtG makes a move for the big seat. Not that it helped the current LtG, mind.



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,074 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2



    Realistically the GOP will be happy to keep the score down in New Jersey.

    Virginia is indeed a toss up, but I suspect the Dems win, but if Youngkin keeps the margin down to 3 points then its a disaster for the Dems.

    The Dem has arguably tried to hard to tie Youngkin to Trump which is not working because Youngkin has resisted the urge to go full Maga.

    It reminds me a little of 2020 when Trump initially called Biden a socialist etc, and then when he realised that was not working had to go with "he will be the pawn of AOC" when in power, neither line of attack didn't click with the so called moderates and independants.



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,074 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    The more amusing thing regarding Virginia is republicans begging Trump to stay away from Youngkin because they realise in purple/blue states his presence is absolute poison. Trump though because he knows no better was suggesting you could not trust voting in Virginia which I am sure Youngkin was delighted about.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,268 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    If Youngkin loses, republicans will blame him for not bowing down to Trump.

    Oh and "Democrat" fraud.



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,074 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2



    I think those who do that are lost causes tbh. Youngkin has ran as good campaign as anyone could have in a blue state tbh.

    Corey Stewart ran as full blown MAGA disciple in 2018 against Tim Kaine in the same state and lost by 15 points.

    I totally understand the Dems trying to tie Youngkin to Trump because Trump is a godsend for turnout for Dem turnout , but Youngkin hasn't taken the bait.



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,321 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    I would still consider VA to be purple, personally. Yes, the Mansion and legislature are currently all blue, but it's not by a big margin, the GOP only lost the legislature two years ago, latest polling indicates the lower house has a fair chance of flipping. As this election is showing, one cannot take VA for granted as a Democrat state.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,321 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Well, I'm not -massively- surprised by the Virginia result, it was always a close race, and it seems that the Democrats will hold onto the legislature, albeit with reduced majority. Getting the Attorney General was a very nice bonus for them, though. However, New Jersey, I'm definitely surprised. As I go to bed, the Republican candidate is winning, and it's unsure if there are enough votes yet to come in from Blue counties to finish the gap. Granted, it's been over 40 years since the last time a Governor was elected in NJ which was the same party as the President, so the Democrat was always up against the challenge of history, but still, for NJ, that was quite a run by the GOP, even though they had a Republican governor only a few years ago.



  • Registered Users Posts: 464 ✭✭The Quintessence Model


    It's good to see voters reject the nonsense that is CRT. Hopefully this sends a message to Biden and the democrats that voters don't want this type of ultra-progressive, racist ideology in their society, let alone their class rooms. Let's hope the Dems, and Biden in particular, take it on board so they don't lose in 3 years time.



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,406 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Speaking of polls, they have badly underestimated the GOP vote in NJ. Seeing as Biden is already trailing badly in national polls, it could be a very bad night for the Democrats in 12 months' time and a really Everest task for Biden in 2024, that's of course if he will run, but I doubt that myself.



  • Registered Users Posts: 388 ✭✭bewareofthedog


    A good day for common sense

    Minneapolis residents on Tuesday have voted against a proposed amendment that would have removed the city’s police department from the city charter and replace it with a Department of Public Safety.



  • Registered Users Posts: 39,853 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Well if the democrats don’t get their heads out of the clouds and admit their messaging is piss poor(to quote Brian Williams) then Kevin McCarthy might as well start measuring up the speakers office on Capitol Hill now because moderate democrats in swing districts aren’t going to win next November if this is a sign of things to come. Just because they may have the policies that are popular with Americans, doesn’t mean they are just going to magically appear as law, they need to sell it. The gop have been easily able to box the dems into corners over slogan the dems use which have become twisted.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,268 ✭✭✭Cody montana




  • Registered Users Posts: 22,625 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    CRT is the just the new boogie man for the poor scared Republicans. They need to constantly be afraid of something and it'll be something different in a year's time. Do you really think most voters know what it actually is? Keep dreaming.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 729 ✭✭✭SupplyandDemandZone


    Their messaging has nothing to do with it, it's their President. He doesn't inspire like Obama and looks to have no energy in the locker which is understandable at his age. He got in because he's not the worst president of all time Trump. American's also don't like a guy who doesn't get up in front of the press and answer questions, Biden looks like a coward in that respect.

    He's been a huge disappointment for me unfortunately and i would have liked to see him as president 2 terms ago but his day looks to have passed.



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