Irish nicknames

Paudie is a nickname for Padraig I thought.

My understanding of a nickname is something like Big Tom or Joxer.

your name is patrick , you can use pat for short, as above unless you are playing irish music or folk music i cant think of a reason to use the word paudie , i understand americans might find padraig hard to pronounce, paudie is just a short version , like mick for michael , a nickname would be something like shorty or cookie , most people outside ireland would not know what paudie means ,

sometimes, the "at" is dropped from Patrick. Seems to be fairly common in Tipp and Cork

I know someone who is David but goes by Dáithí. Ireland has a habit of people being "officially" named one thing and known by another or using their second name as the first e.g. Martin Finbarr but known as Barry. I know a William who uses Liam, a Timothy who uses Tadhg. Then you have your Edmonds or Edwards - Ned, Ted, Ed.... It's a nightmare when it comes to finance paperwork, which is part of my job.

At least you're sticking to the Irish version of your actual name which is straight forward enough.

I know people who are christened

Diarmuid but called joe

Fintan but called Henry

Aidan but called Maura

Margaret but called Peggy

welcome to Ireland

The first rule of nicknames is....

You don't give yourself a nickname.

If you don't like your name why not just change it

Pa is a rural version of Patrick.

Picture a ruddy faced rotund gent, propping up a bar. That would be a 'Pa'.

My Dad's name was Peter. He was educated though Irish, and so was known as Peadar in school. He got a job straight after school (that he worked in until retirement) and was known as Peadar in that, and met my mother soon after and she knew him as Peadar.

His family always called him Peter, Peter was on all his official correspondence, but my mother and her family, and me and my brother, all his work colleagues and all our neighbours called him Peadar.

I remember asking him once what he actually regarded his name as, and he said either one, he wasn't fussy about it.

When my mother was born, her mother wanted to call her Patricia, but her grandmother wanted to call her Mary. For some reason, the grandmother was the one who registered her, so officially - and solely to her grandmother - she was Mary. But all the rest of her family and everyone else in her life called her Patricia.

My wife has a similar situation where Mary is her official name, but no-one ever called her that. She's exclusively known by her middle name.

I know a guy who's known by everyone as "Sally" - surname is O'Brien. (you'd need to be around in the 80s to get it).

In short, you can call yourself whatever you want.

i think you can use an irish version, padraig etc the question is will people in your country understand how to pronounce it, even in america people know the name pat or patrick, will customers or people you work with like it ,or find it confusing . i think paudie is an awful name ,sounds like small per dog.anyone who speaks english can pronounce pat or patrick .

paudie is a very old fashioned name to use in 2021 ,mostly used in the gaeltacht .names go out of fashion ,

like cedric or nigel in the uk.

i think you live outside ireland , maybe you want to show your irish heritage by using the irish name

Not many Paudies, but no sign of them disappearing. In 2020 there were 13 Paudies, but fewer than 3 Nigels.

https://www.cso.ie/en/interactivezone/visualisationtools/babynamesofireland/

Preferably, you should be able to converse in irish then.

You have a unique tax ID precisely because there is no legal requirement to have a unique name. In Ireland, as a matter of law, your name is whatever you are known by, which is a question of fact. And, if different people call you different things, you have two names, each of them equally valid legally. This is common - people may use a maiden name in some contexts and a married name in others, or an Irish name in some circles and an English name in others, or a full forename in some situations and a diminutive in others.

There are no legal restrictions on the names, or number of different names, that you can have, either sequentially or simultaneously, other than not adopting a name to perpetrate a fraud. Having and using multiple names may cause confusion and give rise to practical difficulties and may seriously piss off banks, etc, who suspect - wrongly - that you may be using multiple names for fraudulent purposes, but it's not illegal and the names are all perfectly valid. Practical difficulties can often be alleviated by executing and registering a deed poll, but this is more for a situation in which you want to use one name in substitution for another, rather than one name as well as another.

But note that the name must actually be used. You announcing "I am now called Throatwarbler Mangrove" does not mean that Throatwarbler Mangrove is your name. You need to persuade other people to use Throatwarbler Mangrove as your name.

Which means, when you think about it, that ultimately what your name is is decided by other people.

There are nicknames for surnames as well of course.

"Hopper" McGrath,

"Chalkie" White

"Funky" Gibbons

I can't think of any more right now.

So you get a new job , say I'd like to be known as Padraig, for the purposes of tax forms, payslips my name is Patrick. I think it's simpler to keep using whatever name is on your tax form p60 on your payslip prsi etc

I presume your legal name on your birth cert is patrick

I would thought have from the thread title you meant nicknames of surnames.

Up here in Monaghan nearly every common surame ( McKenna, Treanor, Connolly,Smyth etc ) have nicknames to differentiate different families. I know there's nicknames in West Limerick where you're grandfather's and fathers name are your nickname like you'd be Patrick Johnny Mick , instead of Patrick Murphy for example.