Climate Bolloxolgy.

Has anyone on here said that agri shouldn't make efforts to reduce emissions? The argument here is that agri is being made do the most of the heavy lifting while other parts of the economy are let off, or are being allowed offset. I was in Applegreen earlier and seen a great big poster out in the forecourt claiming "better for the environment". What. A. Joke. "Better" if you buy their premium fuel which they then claim will help them do some clean water activities in East Africa, and plant trees in Ireland. It's farcical shite that's going on. Ryanair are full time on the radio spouting how they spent 20 billion on new jets which are better for the environment too, all the while encouraging you to fly off to some city in Europe for a tenner. It's maddening.

The worst part is people lap that "green" crap up and pat themselves on the back for supporting said companies.

Reduce agriculture in Ireland and Brazil will take up the deficit burning down the rainforest needed to sustain the increased numbers. Reduce agriculture worldwide and you will get food shortages, before then the price of food will go up.

Is there any other polluting industry that when reduced would cause global problems? Aviation? Less tourists but look at the state of the world from worldwide travel. Cars? less traffic using a fuel that might run out before electric is sustainable and affordable. Cruise industry? The world has been doing well without skyscrapers sailing across the world's oceans. Everyone likes to point the easy finger at farming but how about industries that can actually be reduced without much repercussion.

Farming is just being used as a scapegoat and nothing will be achieved in the next 10 years blaming it while ignoring the glaring more immediate issues. In the future they will look back wondering how we were so uneducated and ignorant like how we look back at medieval times. Now I'm not against some heavy changes in agriculture to reduce emissions BUT driving old farms to retirement and young farmers out of a future is going to make Covid look like minuscule when the world can't feed itself.

and I will ignore you .

Yeah didn't you know proper farming is all about old fashioned pishogues.

Don't tell me you spread fertilisers (including natural ones) to make the grass and crops grow when you can just pray at the next solstice ?

Don't tell me your dose the animals for fluke, worms when you can rub the spit of the 7th son of the 7th son ?

And don't tell me you watch the telly and use the internet when you could just have jam jar full of water to read the weather ?

You and your modern fangled science.

Who needs it. ☺️

Its a fact, the paymaster calls the tune. If you accept any CAP payments you accept the conditions. That certainly includes all those Single Farm Payments.

This has already been refuted:

I don't get any payments, am I absolved from the rules so...

Seems to be lots of shouting down of farmers or anyone that doesn't agree.

It’s refuted but far from proven. Yes cattle eat grass, and release the methane from the grass. But if the grass isn’t eaten it dies and rots and still releases methane. So let’s kill off all grass perhaps!😂

Except he doesn't account for the carbon coming from the fossil fuels used by the tractor, fertilizer, Jeep, Manufacture f sprays, dosages etc etc Nothing to take them back out of the atmosphere.

Where is agriculture particularly targeted?

Like, in the Irish case agriculture is a high proportion of emissions. But that because, as mentioned above, we don't have a lot of heavy industry.

But even in our case, agriculture isn't singled out. Its mentioned as one of the main sectors, along with transport and energy (with reference to domestic heating being a significant element, too.)

Globally, similarly, folk typically identify transport and energy as big sectors. Not agriculture alone.

And, tbh, we'll see what Government actually does. But I can't see them hitting agriculture more than other sectors, and they'll like hit it much lighter than other sectors.

This is what happens but methane has an effective atmospheric residency time measured in decades before it oxidizes. In that time it has amplified the CO2 that it replaced. If the transformation was instant then no one would be talking about methane.

An article about bog decomposition is totally not relivant to the 90% of agricutural land which is not BOG.

Are you sure it's decades, I thought 8-12 years. Is it not why it's seen as a quick reduction.

Anyway it still doesn't multiply during residency so one cow belching now is only replacing methane which is breaking down from a cow belching how ever many years ago. Obviously not that simple but there must be an equilibrium reached from that source.