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Bag stolen from Carosel at Dublin Airport

  • 03-11-2021 9:52am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,157 ✭✭✭


    It's looking like my bag has been stolen from the carousel at Dublin Airport. Sadly I didn't have travel insurance. Aer Lingus is still dealing with it but they are saying the case has been tracked to landing on the carousel. Has anyone ever heard of this, I don't know where I stand, I guess they won't pay out?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭.red.


    Contact the DAA immediately, there's cameras everywhere. I'd be pushing more at them than Aer Lingus.


    Give a good description of your bag, what flight you were on and what time the carousel opened.

    It should be easily tracked thru the cameras from the belt, to customs and out into landside.

    Good luck.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,839 ✭✭✭endofrainbow


    Might not have been stolen, could be a genuine error unless your bag was particularly distinctive. Is there anything in it that identifies you ie. address/phone number ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,157 ✭✭✭Zelda247


    Nothing that identifies me, sadly. If it was a error the person's bag would have been left on the carousel.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,641 ✭✭✭cml387


    How long has it been missing?

    Once upon a time we had a bag go missing. Back collected in error by someone else. Bit of a leap to say it was "stolen" Who's steal a bag of clothes?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 729 ✭✭✭SupplyandDemandZone


    It happened to me of a bag carosel in NY years ago, i had about 2k worth of clothing in the bag give or take a couple of hundred and insurance paid out, 200 quid so yeah people steal bags.



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,144 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    Bit of a lottery to steal a bag though as mostly you'll just end up with a bag of dirty washing.


    Have had bags not appear on the carousel multiple times. It's always been down to the bag ending up in the wrong airport, or being left behind in the wrong continent as it didn't make the transfer as quickly as I did. Then the bag turns up a couple of days later.


    Only times it was major problems was when returning from a long duration trip so my house keys were buried in the bottom of my hold bag as hadn't needed them for 5 months, so got back after a long trip and couldn't get into the house.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,157 ✭✭✭Zelda247


    Aer Lingus said the bag was loaded on to the carousel. No bags were remaining when the carousel was turned off so only explanation is it was stolen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,157 ✭✭✭Zelda247




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,891 ✭✭✭✭ted1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,839 ✭✭✭endofrainbow


    Bags are not considered 'lost' until after 21 days.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭.red.


    They don't know the bag was loaded onto the carousel.

    The bag is scanned into a can, and the can is scanned into the hold. The bag is regarded as being in the can but mistakes happen where its scanned but put into a different can, bags can also fall out on airport roadways.

    When the plane lands, the cans are removed and brought to the carousel and the bags are loaded on and brought upto the arrivals. The bags are not scanned here so it could have fallen out on the road, fallen off the belt, got thrown too hard and gone down the side of the belt etc.

    Aer Lingus can only say for certain the bag was loaded into the can and onto the aircraft as that's all that's recorded.

    I'd still be contacting the DAA about it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,157 ✭✭✭Zelda247


    Many thanks for your help,who do you think,I should contact in DAA? Wonder would they say wait 21 days, its so upsetting I hate to think someone would steal it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭.red.


    I'd be contacting customer service or airport police or better again immigration(who are all guards but I doubt they'd entertain you) and say you want to report a theft of a bag from Airside within the airport.

    Tell them Aer Lingus are insisting your bag was put on the belt and it didn't arrive upto the arrivals hall so it either fell off somewhere, or it was stolen.

    If I was a betting man I'd be thinking it got left behind tho so might be worth contacting the airport you flew from even tho you shouldn't have to.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,425 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    Do EI use containers in the A320?



  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 23,207 ✭✭✭✭beertons


    Did it even make it onto the plane?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,808 ✭✭✭lintdrummer


    Yes, though late bags and cabin bags taken at the door can be loose loaded into the aft hold.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    I’d be contacting the airline firstly.

    the airline are responsible for getting your bag back to YOU.. their responsibility doesn’t end when it’s brought to the carousel ... you have no contract with the airport, you do with aer lingus...”we gave you a bag, paid for it but didn’t receive it back....”

    id put in also a courtesy call to airport police to see how interested the likes of airlines are in chasing these incidents up, the baggage hall is well covered by cameras and other technologies should be able to track the bag to a certain belt / carousel at a particular time...

    problem will be if it’s been half inched, you might have an image of the culprit but identifying him / her might be impossible...



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I chased up an item of decent value id left on a plane before, while the return flight was still in the air

    Aer lingus couldnt have been less helpful, no such thing as going looking for it despite my knowing exactly where it was left


    Id to leave a report in with DAA who added me to a list, despite the item having left dublin in the pocket of seat 8C an hour before


    Item never recovered, i hope the fella that grabbed it got good use out of it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,425 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    Have any of you considered getting Apple Tags and dropping them in your bags?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    >>They don't know the bag was loaded onto the carousel.

    Are you 100% sure of that with Terminal 2?

    Dublin airport T2 has a computer controlled baggage system and you can see in the video below that the bags navigate their way through the various belts and trays in the system controlled by software , and an integral part of that is scanning the bags as they make their way through the system (they even focus on a scanner at 19 seconds)

    If theres nothing but scanners in the bowels of T2, then you can be sure they log the path of the bag including its delivery to the carousel.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,713 ✭✭✭notAMember


    Sorry your bag is lost, but Dublin airport luggage is a total disgrace / embarrassment. I would assume your bag is in the airport still.

    Here's a photo of where I found my bag the last time I travelled through that mess. 4 flights all dumped onto the same carousel, no signage at the time on my flight's luggage. Passengers started climbing through those plastic flaps, the whole thing jammed up. All the other carousels in the hall empty.





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭.red.


    No, maybe its different in T2.

    Those scanners look like they're just scanning each bag as they pass to make sure they're not jamming the belt. Sometimes the tag of something like a gearbag is on the top handles but if the bag is on the belt upside down then cant be scanned even if that system is in place.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,157 ✭✭✭Zelda247


    It gets worse, Aer Lingus have sent me a form to complete and in order to claim I must have either bank statements or receipts for the items in the case. The majority of the items were bought with cash and I don't have receipts, I didn't forsee the need to keep them when the items were bought.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭maestroamado


    Just fill in the items and value of same... you must have told them you bought new items if they ask for this info...the fact that you get form suggests you be ok... there likely be a maximum you can claim...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,507 ✭✭✭KevRossi


    You'll be paid back based on the weight of the bag, max amount is €1,400 for 30 kg of luggage. If you don't have receipts then either use your card to show receipts for clothes purchased before or just tell then that.

    If you have no luck with that then you'll have to doorstep them. So go out to Aer Lingus in Dublin Airport and very very politely explain the situation to them. Don't leave until you get some written response or a verbal agreement from someone in authority there.

    They will try to fob you off somehow. There is also a section in the airport for lost luggage. Possibly one for T1 and another for T2. Ask the baggage handlers where this place is and ask if you can gain entry to it. The people at the oversize luggage desk are the best to ask, or ask here on the aviation forum as there's a couple of people here who work out there.

    When you go out there take the luggage receipt, two pieces of photo and address I.D., your ticket and any records of contact with the airport. Log all calls you make and print out any emails. Take these with you. Be unfailingly polite no matter how much it hurts you.

    I had the same experience when Ryanair lost my bike in Munich, nobody could find it, I flew back there and found it within an hour. So it's not just Dublin airport. There's also a mention in this thread about someone who retrieved lost luggage in Dublin, not sure if you can do the same.

    Thread is here: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/110481212#Comment_110481212



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,507 ✭✭✭KevRossi


    This post #22 on what happenend to another Boardsie:

    One more anecdote to add to this thread. Don't know if it's useful to you, but may be to others:


    Last year myself and two friends flew Dublin - Biarritz with Ryanair to watch the Tour de France with three bikes. One of the lads bikes never arrived. Over the next 10 days he filled in all the forms, Ryanair went through all the similar stuff written in this thread. Then we flew back to Dublin, went to the Ryanair baggage desk in the baggage reclaim area, asked if we could look in the baggage room (there's a large hall adjacent to the baggage reclaim area in T1) just in case it was there. Went into the hall and the bike box was lying up against the bag wall concealed by another box.


    Mostly luck, but always push them to allow you to check the baggage hall - in the Winter of 2010 (when the airport was closed due to snow), I found my backpack that they claimed they had lost in the baggage hall, just cast aside.


    Best of luck with it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,839 ✭✭✭endofrainbow


    Of course they're asking for receipts - it would be the same with travel insurance.



  • Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I have no idea why you would contact immigration? Nothing to do with luggage. If course they won't entertain you.

    Oh and fyi, they are not all guards.

    I'd go to the airport OP, it's amazing how much luggage is just lying around.



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