To Mask or not to two - Mask Megathread cont.

Quote political analyst: After all, this is Western Europe, not East Asia!

Pretty sure you posted the same on the other covid thread.

Maybe Western Europe can learn something from East Asia.

Article and paper.

Significance

This paper examines whether the opening of K–12 schools may lead to the spread of COVID-19. Analyzing how an increase of COVID-19 cases is related to the timing of opening K–12 schools in the United States, we find that counties that opened K–12 schools with in-person learning experienced an increase in the growth rate of cases by 5 percentage points on average, controlling for a variety of policies, past infection rates, and other factors. This association of K–12 school visits with case growth is stronger when mask wearing is not mandated for staff at school. These findings support policies that promote masking and other precautionary measures at schools and giving vaccine priority to education workers.

Abstract

This paper empirically examines how the opening of K–12 schools is associated with the spread of COVID-19 using county-level panel data in the United States. As preliminary evidence, our event-study analysis indicates that cases and deaths in counties with in-person or hybrid opening relative to those with remote opening substantially increased after the school opening date, especially for counties without any mask mandate for staff. Our main analysis uses a dynamic panel data model for case and death growth rates, where we control for dynamically evolving mitigation policies, past infection levels, and additive county-level and state-week “fixed” effects. This analysis shows that an increase in visits to both K–12 schools and colleges is associated with a subsequent increase in case and death growth rates. The estimates indicate that fully opening K–12 schools with in-person learning is associated with a 5 (SE = 2) percentage points increase in the growth rate of cases. We also find that the association of K–12 school visits or in-person school openings with case growth is stronger for counties that do not require staff to wear masks at schools. These findings support policies that promote masking and other precautionary measures at schools and giving vaccine priority to education workers.

So mask wearing is that? Seriously? Cultural identity lost because mask wearing sounds to me very extreme.

The mandrian is made up two words, face and membrane = face mask. Pronounced meeeNwa

@BrianD3 Every word Cormican uttered is probably most likely definitely in this thread but sadly the search function has brutalised extracting with ease. I can't recall Roberts being mentioned, but then again I've probably only read 98.425%+ of thread. A quick recon on her seems okayish, a little pro handy but so were they all, she had no problem letting her smallie don a mask in July 2020 and has able to admit that he wore the mask better than she thought he would. Similar conclusion from a French study, kids wear masks better and with less fuss than parents expect.

Roberts called out WTF on the U13s too in the same tweet but if she rubbed you up the wrong way on masks, please insert.

and yes we never got any real mask education from Govt.

Was it this? Roberts is 2nd to be interviewed, half way point.

Roberts isn't too bad but I distinctly remember her being on Prime Time near the start repeating the masks not recommended mantra of the time. Cormican was on about the same time saying the same thing. Roberts is not a physician so maybe it wasn't part of her remit (or she thought it wasn't) to go off piste on masks. I can't remember exactly what Luke O'Neill said about masks but I think he flip flopped on them.

Played a part? That was Cormican all by his lonesome. See Hugh O'Connell's article in INDO, link below.

Prof Cormican’s paper, released under Freedom of Information request.

It also notes that in addition to the impact on schoolchildren, the negative impacts of the current testing regime include delays in access to healthcare, undermining years of work encouraging self-care of viral respiratory tract infections, the uncomfortableness and inconveniences for many people of testing, the cost to the health service, and the environmental impacts of mass testing.

Does one need to ask what Cormican meant by undermining years of work encouraging self care of viral respiratory tract infections? = hand washing?? Was he **** his pants that unmasked U13s with hand gel were going to undo his years of work encouraging hand washing if they kept on getting tested?

Fuckin hell your right. Wat a country we live in that this idiot is still in such an important position after all these **** ups. No doubt he will be there until he decides to retire too, with a fat state pension at that.

The man is a menace. Literally doesnt have a clue.

In not very impressed with nepht taking advice from this bafoon either.

Credit where it's due, she stuck her neck out this morning, calling for from 2+ or 3+.

Don't see ANYONE else doing that.

AGS updated fines for AUG SEP OCT.

3 fines for the whole month of August, 6 for September and 3 for October.

The system is not working.

More like guards don't work and probably everyone turning a blind eye to people going around with their face masks not on properly.

Charity worker outside the shop the other day asking people to donate and all I could see was his nose sticking out. Of course, I was asked to stop and chat and try and get a donation but all I could tell them, you're not getting anything of me with your nose hanging out.

Like how is it the norm here to have so much people with their noses hanging out or the face masks on the chin? And nobody says a thing. I think I'll be slapped one day by telling someone to wear their mask properly.

Anyone know why BorrisJ wasnt wearing his mask when in the company of 95year old National treasure David Attenbourgh???

You've(see post #5102) been presented with real world studies to counter your "masks are absolutley useless" and "nothing more than a nice visual" statements and you dissapeared from the conversation, are you back to continue it or have switched over now to this new line of bashing posters in thread with "ashamed of yourselves" speeches?

We are fortunate in Ireland that not one child has died from this preventable disease and hopefully it will remain that way. Hoping alone will not reduce the risk and the risk is very real as sadly the hundred dead children in the UK highlights.

The "not one single child has died" arguement holds not water when it comes to masking/not masking. If it did then we would have to higher our minimum masking age to the lowest death so far, which would be 25?