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"Green" policies are destroying this country

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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,211 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    The electricity grid is going to collapse with everything the government are promising will be all electric. Our vehicles and heating systems etc.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,211 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    I can't afford to buy an EV etc. so I can't wait to get a free heat pump, free EV and get free retrofitting done.........oh looks like I'll actually have to pay through the nostrils for it. Nah I'm out.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    Looks like they'll be giving a grant to import old Nissan Leafs from England



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    Enid Blyton, sorry Eamon Ryan on the news talking bollocks



  • Registered Users Posts: 82,364 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Yes probably targetting the ones with the sub 100km range because the battery is on the way out.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    Only way they get the kind of numbers they are talking about,



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,211 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    We sell around 100k-110k new cars in Ireland each year so 950k EVs by 2030 means basically every new car sold from next year must be EV. This year c.8% of car sales were BEV. Fantasy.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,543 ✭✭✭Billcarson


    Electric vehicles may be cheaper to run atm then petrol and diesel but you can be sure when or if most drivers drive electric cars the cost of running them will magically increase and be just as expensive as using petrol or diesel.....



  • Registered Users Posts: 729 ✭✭✭SupplyandDemandZone


    They have no chance of reaching that 1 million EV target, zero chance. Even if they bought an EV for every single one of those 1 million owners how will they be charged??? Our grid is falling apart under the pressure as is and more and more data centres will be built.

    This government are useless clowns.



  • Registered Users Posts: 82,364 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Problem is the battery is unproven at age, if say the failure rate is 70/80% at 10 years old for them and a new battery is circa €10k it's going to mean the value of an electric car will completely collapse once they get to 6 or 7 years old as nobody will want to take the risk. They will become even more disposable than current cars and the emissions needed to create them many times worse as a result.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 451 ✭✭MBE220d


    Just heard the President of COP26 saying that coal has been consigned to history, was he asleep when the likes of China, India, the USA and Australia the biggest users of coal in the world refused to sign up to it, meanwhile little old Ireland had to close up the 2 peat burning stations just to be best boys in the class, as usual, destroying communities that were built over the years and thousands of jobs lost.

    Whatever chance there was of bringing me along with this Green agenda before this COP26, it's finished now after watching this farce of the rich and famous telling us how we have to live our lives while they have their private jets outside, prancing and posing around the place telling us how well things is going and how much they have achieved, while the big polluters stay at home and do nothing only planning to increase output seen that they have no restrictions placed upon them.

    Game over for me.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,543 ✭✭✭Billcarson


    Wonder how will the government make up for loss of revenue on petrol and diesel? Probably tax the **** out of us with motor tax.



  • Registered Users Posts: 82,364 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    There has to be some class of billing per km travelled introduced for EV's down the line, perhaps logged at NCT and you are then billed per year or when you change ownership of the car.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,211 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    The end result of all this is simply gouging more and more money out of people's pockets.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,358 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Even car companies have said they can't produce at that rate due to semi conductor manufacturing issues.


    Total pie in the sky.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,355 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Micheal Martin in his unctuous way trying to get the Irish people on board with the Climate Action Plan

    And the Irish people's response




  • Registered Users Posts: 451 ✭✭MBE220d



    That's it at the end of the day, but don't worry somewhere down the line people are going to wake up to all this, if not already, wait till a few big gas and electricity bills start coming in, we will just see how green people really are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 712 ✭✭✭Pops_20


    Does anyone have a link to the Climate Action Plan that was published today? All news sites have articles on it but no mention of where to find it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    The greens must be buried once and for all in the next general election.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    They're not even trying to reverse climate change. They want to just cap it at 1.5 degrees a year or something.


    Which is mad because we're being squeezed for something that just delays what we're supposed to be preventing. So animals will go extinct, it'll just take a few years longer. Cities will still be underwater, it'll just take a few years longer.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭Mr. teddywinkles


    So hold on here we have to buy an electric car and retro fit our homes green. Roughly costing anything between 50000e to 100000e per home.

    People are struggling to pay bills and mortgages as is but these clowns want us to do this? Meanwhile what's heating your home fuel wise has increased at a mad rate this year already.

    Being penalised with carbon taxes on top of it which will really incentivise us to swap. Hard to change when ya have no money ain't it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,300 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    I heard something on the news (too annoyed to pay full attention) about a target of a certain amount of people walking to work per week.

    Try tell that to a sizeable bulk of the work-force that have to commute an hour to work every day. What time will they have to leave at every morning? Will they be provided with hi-viz jackets etc?

    Ryan is completely in a Dublin-centric bubble and MUST go in the next election. An absolute gobshite of a man.



  • Registered Users Posts: 39,874 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    It really is baffling how the greens(in Ireland at least) while having the political wind behind them in terms of climate change, which I think most of us would agree that something needs to be done about it, and then they publish this tone deaf report and have targets that are nice and admirable in theory but in reality aren’t doable in the time periods outlined. I’ve said it before but the Irish Green Party are shocking at messaging things. They should be trying to bring people along with them, not pissing people off and making them less likely to follow you.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,767 ✭✭✭buried


    Could somebody explain this to me. Ireland's main indigenous export is beef and dairy, grass fed beef and dairy. An agricultural product that this country is now going to have to fork out the carbon cost for producing it. The countries that we export it to, and the people who consume it, those people pay none of this cost. But at the same time, other countries, such as Saudi Arabia, who produce products such as crude oil for export, pay absolutely no costs for their massive carbon cost of production, but the countries that import it and consume it, such as us here in Ireland, do. This makes no sense.

    "You have disgraced yourselves again" - W. B. Yeats



  • Registered Users Posts: 451 ✭✭MBE220d


    Okay for the lads with their gold plated pensions telling us what we have to do,



  • Registered Users Posts: 729 ✭✭✭SupplyandDemandZone


    Yes yes but we'll be the best little boys and girls in Europe, the EU may even give us a blue peter badge cause we so good.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 451 ✭✭MBE220d


    Seen Ryan cycling to work today in his white coat, like I mean how many people do you see cycling in winter wearing white,



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  • Registered Users Posts: 82,364 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
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    Yes there should be a levy on it, 20% or so green levy. 37% of emissions in this country coming from agriculture, meanwhile people in this country questioning whether to turn on their heating to stay warm because they are being ripped out of it in carbon taxes.



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