Climate Bolloxolgy.

I'm normally not one for conspiracy theories but for utter **** sake you couldn't make it up as another poster said. I think I find myself agreeing with you.

What an utter sham and complete pack of cnuts.

If there is a genuine desire to support the family farm you support extensive finishing by raising the slaughter age so farmer can carry less and let it fatten fully or as close as possible off grass.......

If you are in bed with processors and/or you want to promote further intensive feeding or simply make it unviable then have at it.....there was **** all if any real justification for the 30 month limit in any case.

It's truly disgusting what goes on in this country ..... if only farmers weren't such a fragmented group.....should be causing havoc over even a sniff of this....unless the aim is to drive people out of their farms it goes against any environmental reasoning to my mind.

Come to think of it their meddling has probably caused the most damage when it comes to the environment over the past 30 years and now they want to really compound the **** up....

If we had any sense as a group we would hand back the 30 pieces silver and make them live up to what they preach.

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Sure it won't be possible to finish them to a timetable without leaving them as bulls and/or pumping them with feed (which will probably be imported) ....and as the margins will be so tight larger numbers will have to be carried by less farmers ...and they will have to construct larger yards/intensive feedlots etc....

I have experience of trying to finish some of the extreme dairy stuff....the runts do finish I suppose but they simply aren't economically viable....cant see the factory or consumers paying a fair price.....but no problem importing it from a slash and burn rainforest feedlot.

How could that sit with a supporting the family farm sustainable environmental rhetoric?

Origin green my hole.

Personally I think the 22% agriculture reduced is quite achievable, in a mix of efficiencies and technology (likes of seaweed additives in the diet to hugely reduce methane, organic now that I look at it is something that certainly could suit my farm very well here, fertilizer will need to be slashed next year anyways, and by the look of it a dry farm with a long grazing season can grow not far off the same amount of tonsDM/yr with MMS etc.) I guess the big question is will the dairy herd keep expanding? There is certainly more scope for it to expand away here in the Leinster area more, but will all these environmental regulations put a stop to that?

Moving onto other areas of the Irish climate plan. 1million EVs by 2030. Absolutely not a hope in hell, I'm sorry, whatever about the fleet, what about all the infrastructure?

Next up, data centres, eirgrid came out with a report a month back saying they'll account for 28% of all electricity use in 2030 (somehow averaged down to 25% this week?), That's huge growth across the next decade, and how much of that will end up being powered by natural gas?

Next up, transport. Reduce emissions by 50%. Huge increases in public transport. That is absolutely laughable given Ireland's track record on pubic transport, just look at the luas, Irish rail, and the biggest offender, the bloody metro.

Next up, half a million retrofits of Irish houses by 2030. And we are in the middle of a housing and building crisis, and will be for the next 5yrs at least.

So I'm sorry to be very cynical, but bar many major major technical advancements, Ireland doesn't have a hope of actually hitting any of these targets bar possibly the agricultural one!

And yet there seems to be momentum to incentivize the exact opposite.

"Just" transition.....if this is it part of me wants to see the world burn.

Organic to go from 77000 hectares to 350000 by 2030, very unlikely

I can see a clampdown coming on data centres getting planning permission here.

In Japan the government won't promote electric cars as they'd be taking electricity from homes and businesses. The Japanese car manufacturers have been slow as a result to develop electric cars. And now the Chinese have stole a march on developing models.

Here generation wise the government thinks we can cover the countryside in wind turbines and solar and continue to build data centres. There'll be a point when people will say it's enough. Peter Sweetman the serial objectionist is already at it re data centres.

On ad plants we can see already the push from so called enviros welcoming them. So although the misgivings from eamon Ryan about them I'd say money will win out and they'll go ahead. I'm on the fence on them. If Ireland's track record is anything to go by. The golden handshakes and school clubs will have a chosen few being allowed. I'd be afraid myself of allowing digestate on farm as to its origins and makeup.

This has been well reared in Ireland these past few years. First Pippa brought in. Dept inspectors then putting feels out could emissions be dropped. Phil Hogan getting shot down. Barry Cowen getting same. Next ag minister same. Finally had one then that was amenable. Some times we live in. In this country.

What ever Ireland and the rest of the PC Brigade countries reduce, the likes of China, India, Russia, and USA will increase ten fold. So it's a pointless task, whatever will be, will be.

Bulls being finished well under twenty months ?

With ration at € 350 per tonne ?

There has been no justification for the thirty month age limit for years yet none of the farm organisations have ever fired a shot in anger over it . You would have to ask why ?

The thinking behind the reduction in age for slaughter is that it is a sly way of reducing cattle numbers. You'll find that you won't be able to carry any extra cattle to cover the units that leave the farm a few months early.

It is still unclear what is the outcome of the suckler herd, I see the number 316. This could mean a reduction