Kieran Creaven at it again..

Did you read the article?

It is fairly harrowing stuff, but it is also not recent (i.e. post his arrest).

In other words, why do you say "Kieran Creaven at it again.."?

Is it just me or did that article go in to unnecessary detail?

The Thai offences were pre UK arrest, read the article

Where are you getting that from? The article states that all of the offences he's being charged with are from before he was arrested in the UK. He's scum who should get the book thrown at him, but let's not just start making up offences

I really don't like how those hunter groups work but then you see something like this and from the article Creaven himself is saying that hes glad he was caught then as he was spiraling so it's quite a good thing he was caught as that would suggest he'd still be at it and more. The main issue I have with those groups is that it would be very easy for someone to make a fake facebook acccount with your pictures and then message these "decoys" and have them turning up at your house shouting all sorts on the street when you haven't a clue what's gone on.

Surely when he has served whatever sentence (probably light) he gets here, he can then be sent to the Philippines to answer for his crimes there.

Child rape carries a sentence of 40 years there for each offence, I remember one case there a few years ago where a Pedo got 1,400 years.

Say what you like about them but Creaven wasn't on the Guards rader at all until he was caught out by these guys and then arrested ay the UK police.

Pity he wasn't caught in the Philippines he would never see the light of day again if he was sent to one of their prisons.

People like him should just kill themselves, the sickness they have can't be cured.

He should voluntarily offer himself up for chemical castration, as some pedos have done in the past, and perhaps that might be justification for giving him a lighter sentence.

Of course in this backward country, you don't need to do anything as drastic as that to get yourself a soft sentence. Just get your legal rep to bring out the violin and play the sob story about your personal troubles and sad back story.

This chap is sorry he got caught, end of. Like most of them!

After reading the facts it would appear that this should be a death penalty case if that were still a legal punishment in this country. Dreadful, dreadful man. He has lost his home, job, reputation, and marriage, so he may make his own quietus soon anyway.

The point is that what they are doing could be exploited. If I wanted to frame someone and have these people knocking at their door and shouting that they are a pedo all over the street it would be very easy to do. All I would need to do is buy a cheap phone, make a fake account with their pictures and then send a few messages out until I end up speaking to the decoy. Whats to stop anyone from doing that? These groups shouldn't be approaching members of the public the way they do. Gather the information and then bring it to the police.

The sequence in which this individual committed his crimes seem to be more important to most posters here than the crimes themselves.

OP got the chronology wrong, change the thread title by all means but the issue here is this guy is worse than any casual observer would have thought.

in fairness they aren't needed, the police are doing what they can but need extra resources, these groups are only out for themselves and serving their own egos.

there are those simply staying quite and handing over what evidence they are actually seeing to the police, without having to set up accounts pretending to be children, normal people don't do that sort of thing now to be fair.

even the police if they were to do such a thing wouldn't be doing it willingly and officers have all sorts of councilling and more to deal with the effects of that job.

Framing someone? not that I know of, but that's not to say that mistakes don't happen...

California passed laws 20+ years ago, requiring chemical castration as a mandatory requirement for parole.

I think we should consider similar changes to the law here.

Sexual based crimes are very serious, and can leave a trail of misery behind that is every bit as horrible as when someone commits murder.

Because this creep never murdered anyone, our justice system will see him back out on the streets in a very short period of time. He'll be on the sex offenders register, but that's no consolation to anyone who is unlucky enough to be living near him. He will still have these sick urges, and that will make him a constant threat to society. The chances of him re-offending are extremely high.

I'm also not too bothered about the OPs chronology but more about the fact Creaven was at it.

And him saying he was glad he was caught etc is just pathetic from him. Disgusting individual.

This little creep has been sentenced to 10 years.

i had to stop reading that it's so disturbing, a ten to twelve year old ffs

this fella doesn't deserve to live

Kieran Creaven jailed for 10 years today with a ruling on post release supervision to be announced at a later date.

The only way ten years would be a suitable sentence is if he had to serve it in a Philippines jail. I'd be happy for my taxes to pay for this. It would undoubtedly be cheaper for me and more brutal for this scümbag.