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ESB eCars

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    #5042
    the_amazing_raisin
    Registered Users Posts: 11,307 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118136944#Comment_118136944

    I know the ID.4 has a setting to auto release the charging cable when a session is finished

    Not sure how many people have it ticked though 😅

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



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    #5043
    innrain
    Registered Users Posts: 2,130 ✭✭✭innrain


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118136973#Comment_118136973

    Hyundai has the same. For Kona is a push button on the right hand side below the lights selector.



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    #5044
    markpb
    Registered Users Posts: 9,294 ✭✭✭markpb


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118137021#Comment_118137021

    Will they work if the car is locked? I wouldn’t fancy that if that’s the case, those 22kW cables aren’t cheap.



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    #5045
    TitianGerm
    Registered Users Posts: 28,041 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118134966#Comment_118134966

    Went back and tried again this evening and still no joy.



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    #5046
    Black_Knight
    Moderators Posts: 12,374 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118137679#Comment_118137679

    It's more for tethered charging. It releases the cable for the next user when your charge ends. You should be moving your car though, so for me I never set it.

    Potentially could be used when home charging, so the plug doesn't require an unlock of the car to release it in the morning.



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    #5047
    liamog
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 7,934 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118137679#Comment_118137679

    It treats an AC cable and a DC cable differently, the CCS spec allows the car to control the behaviour. The Ioniq was pretty sane and would release the CCS but hold the Type2.



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    #5048
    innrain
    Registered Users Posts: 2,130 ✭✭✭innrain


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118137679#Comment_118137679

    I believe it is only for DC. I need to re read the manual as I've never use it. The DC cables are so short that hardly someone else from an adjacent spot can use them. Unless the charger is configure as a petrol station maybe.



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    #5049
    liamog
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 7,934 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118138984#Comment_118138984

    Very much depends on the 2nd car. If the first car has a port on the right and the second has it on the left then it's usually easy to switch without moving the car.



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    #5050
    tom1ie
    Registered Users Posts: 10,377 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Got a reply of ecars telling me they have a 150KW DC charger at the circle k in kilcullen off the M9.

    Has anyone used this? Can you only charge one EV at 150KW at a time?

    could definitely do with one at Paulstowntown though.



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    #5051
    AndyBoBandy
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,326 Mod ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118142751#Comment_118142751

    There is a CCS & CHAdeMO plug on the 150kW unit in Kilcullen.


    you could be plugged in taking 150kW on CCS and if a Leaf plugged into the CHAdeMO, you get reduced to 75kW (regardless of what the Leaf is taking*)


    *it won’t be taking 75kW anyway…



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    #5052
    tom1ie
    Registered Users Posts: 10,377 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118143056#Comment_118143056

    Is there only one unit?



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    #5053
    AndyBoBandy
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,326 Mod ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118143453#Comment_118143453

    There’s also a 50kW unit. But as it’s basically the only charger on the M9, it gets fairly busy….

    also a good site to be ICE’d as the chargers are close to the entrance…



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    #5054
    tom1ie
    Registered Users Posts: 10,377 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118143671#Comment_118143671

    Thanks Andy.

    to be honest that would put me off buying an EV at the moment.

    Ecars need to get the finger out!



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    #5055
    AndyBoBandy
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,326 Mod ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118144866#Comment_118144866

    Depending on where you're going to/from, you could manage without using this site, you have Ionity a little further up the road in Kill



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    #5056
    Dubwat
    Registered Users Posts: 422 ✭✭Dubwat


    Ionity* is €0.73 / kWh versus Ecars' €0.33-0.37 / kWh for a rapid charger. Pricey.



    (* Ionity drops to €0.35 / kWh if you pay a 12 x €18 monthly subscription.)



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    #5057
    cannco253
    Registered Users Posts: 1,450 ✭✭✭cannco253


    https://twitter.com/MotorFuelGroup/status/1457709602276057088?s=20

    I see that MFG in the UK are replacing CCS cables from 3.4m to 5.5m.

    Does anyone know whether the eCars units are capable of this?



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    #5058
    AndyBoBandy
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,326 Mod ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    The units? probably yes.


    eCars? probably not.



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    #5059
    MightyMunster
    Registered Users Posts: 1,278 ✭✭✭MightyMunster


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118144866#Comment_118144866

    Check your route on abetterrouteplanner website or app, can change car type, weather, charger types e.g. CCS for fast charging. Will show you alternatives



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    #5060
    zg3409
    Registered Users Posts: 6,705 ✭✭✭zg3409


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118144866#Comment_118144866

    Ecars have no big plans to rollout lots of DC chargers. They have zero plans to roll out AC chargers. Most installs by councils are demos or pilots and AC only. There is a few taxi dedicated chargers but not enough and all public Dc chargers near airports are busy with EV Taxis charging. The main downside of EV ownership is public charging when travelling beyond range. One work around is getting a 400km range EV. Another option is a second car either a 2 car household or borrowing or hiring a car for long trips. You may be ok when you get to the charger, but it may be busy, blocked or broken. We need at least 3 times as many chargers right now for now demand, let alone future needs. There is no plans for this to happen.


    Esb ecars would rollout of it was in their interests, but they are wary on funding it themselves and possible future competition which might make sites not make money. Presumably they also assume they will get more free money so are waiting for more free money.



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    #5061
    Black_Knight
    Moderators Posts: 12,374 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    Oh no. I think Mayfields last HPC is a dual CHAdeMO unit. It appeared online today and my server scraped it.

    image.png




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    #5062
    ELM327
    Registered Users Posts: 21,938 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    I think they made a mistake as it shows 2*CCS and 2*chademo at that same point. Hopefully at worst case its 1 of each. Of course, on a HPC, it should be CCS only



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    #5063
    Black_Knight
    Moderators Posts: 12,374 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118151194#Comment_118151194

    Cross those fingers!



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    #5064
    innrain
    Registered Users Posts: 2,130 ✭✭✭innrain


    Seems the new unit to be CCS only

    image.png

    Is the first one on the list? C7YCD I think. 200kWi*

    • i denotes the imaginary part in this complex arrangement


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    #5065
    AndyBoBandy
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,326 Mod ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    What a f;:/()@ sh1tshow…..

    and I’m not even talking about the new unit… (which just went from 200kW to 150kW before my very eyes)

    8D7E1A53-E663-4929-9E70-80EAF1EDC817.jpeg




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    #5066
    AndyBoBandy
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,326 Mod ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Remember folks this hyper hub has been online for almost 5 months to the day.

    I'll give them kudos for leaving an old triple head unit there while the 3 new units were in testing, but it seems like they've just said: "'fcuk it' we'll never get them working right so lets just plough on and put the 4th unit in.... 4 cars DC charging simultaneously after all is still a pretty impressive feat....maybe 5 or even 6 if its a good day!!, now lets crack on, that Christmas party isn't going to plan itself"



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    #5067
    Black_Knight
    Moderators Posts: 12,374 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118151368#Comment_118151368

    The "150kW" are only marked as 150kW. They're not limited to 150kW. Ecars somehow got it into their heads that giving the wrong max power output was clearer than giving the correct details.

    Left plug is 200A, right plug is 350A, so depending on whether you're a 400V or 800V car you'll theoretically get full power.



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    #5068
    AndyBoBandy
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,326 Mod ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    I know that, it's just when I first looked, it showed the new one as 200kW (as per innrain's screenshot), and it was the same when I looked at it, but then it literally changed to 150kW before my eyes...

    I'd happily settle for the units limited to 150kW if it meant all the plugs could be used at once (all the time) like it's supposed to do, and like they say it will...

    But we all know how extremely difficult it is to install <50+kW chargers... sure eCars only have 13 of them installed to date!!

    Ionity only have the 22, and Tesla 36 (up to 42 in about 3 weeks).


    Fingers crossed they can do the next super hub in 2022, and maybe another in 2023...... and maybe one day 8 cars will be able to charge simultaneously at one of them!!!



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    #5069
    cannco253
    Registered Users Posts: 1,450 ✭✭✭cannco253


    Has anyone tried to simultaneously use the "150" kW chargers recently? I will be passing J14 this weekend but if only 1 car can charge at each fast charger I might give it a miss.

    The IEVOA meetup is there this weekend so hopefully they'll give the place a decent test.



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    #5070
    Black_Knight
    Moderators Posts: 12,374 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    It's still showing as 2ccs and 2 CHAdeMO plugs. What if it's not a big, and they have 2of each, but only 2 can be used at a time. Best of both. No "wasted" plug when CHAdeMO aren't around to use it.



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    #5071
    the_amazing_raisin
    Registered Users Posts: 11,307 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118152648#Comment_118152648

    I don't think I've seen those units with 4 cables anywhere else. I think Circle K use them a lot in Norway and they feature in a fair few of Bjorn's videos

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



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