Denis Villeneuve’s Dune

Am going to rewatch the David Lynch version or at least as far as the films overlap.

Dune definitely is but after that there are wildly differing opinions. I loved Messiah but I'm finding CoD boring but most people seem to have those 2 the other way round.

If I ever do get to the reportedly wacky GEoD I think it will be after a good long break.

The good thing is every book has a solid ending so you can stop at any point and get a good resolution

I'd say it's worth reading if Dune has caught your interest and want to know more details.

Saying that, you might spoil parts of the next film on yourself.

It is a pretty.. dense? .. book.. like it goes heavy into details where I didn't understand why at first..

Saying all that.. I know I've been reading people saying some scenes didn't have a lot going on in them where.. in the book there's a metric ton of thinking going on. Particularly the tent scene.

Also like.. whew.. Leto right..

Really felt like Villeneuve did give nods to all that thinking though. Many places. Maybe an obvious one spotted by the Audience being with Jessica and Paul

Pleasantly surprised. Found it enjoyable and despite it's runtime it kept me engaged throughout.

I've read the book and seen the previous version so I didn't need to be spoon-fed the plot but I can imagine others getting lost and losing interest.

Biggest issue for me was the 12A rating - I'm not sure why they went for this as I can't see this being a 'bring the kids along' type of movie. I don't often say this but the movie needed more gore and needed to go darker in places, particularly the Harkonnen scenes - I think a 15 certificate would have suited the movie perfectly.

Acting was great, cinematography stunning and I loved the score. Hopefully they'll make a Part 2.

Finally got to see it today and it lived up to my expectations. As it happens I've been reading the Dune books again so it's all very fresh in my mind what was going on in the movie and I think it was as accurate to the books as it could be except for maybe a few minor changes like Liet-Kynes being a woman and all, but I was happy with it all the same.

One thing though, I was actually hoping to see a particular scene from the book where they're all at a dinner party with Liet-Kynes, and one of the Smugglers, Esmar Tuek is there with him, and they have the Guild Banker and a Harkonnen spy among them, and Duncan Idaho, Gurney Halleck, Jessica and Paul become aware of the spy and start using hand signals to communicate with each other. It's a small scene in the book but it's one of my favorite parts of the book. It also helps to add to the Liet-Kynes character a little bit because, from the discussion he has with Leto, they talk about changing the climate of Dune which was one of Liet's ambitions.

My only real gripe with the movie is that I felt they didn't give us enough time to certain characters, like the Baron, Thufir Hawat, and Piter De Vries for instance. The Baron's screen time was very short and didn't really give us too much of a look into his character. Peter was barely much of a presence in the movie even though he more or less planned and orchestrated the events that led to Leto's death in Dune, his character also had an interest in Jessica as well which got no mention. And Thufir was also kind've neglected a little.

Had the film faithfully followed all that's in the book and the nuances, it would have been more complicated and that 2.5 hours would have covered only one sixth the book. Dune probably would be best seved as a TV series of the highest production standards. like Brideshead Revisited, a far smaller and simpler book which took roughly 11 hours to cover as a TV series.

I loved the film but would prefer a BHR level treatment.

It did extremely well on streaming services as well and probably will continue to perform strong based on word of mouth so that probably nets them significant additional revenue.

Ya the first book is straight enough. It's later in the series when you start getting high concept manwormgods

Arrakis remains a large part of the plot and there are rarely battles of any kind. It's more about the politics and scheming

Anything I was talking about is from later books not stuff that will be covered in the movie

He explains in the movie quite clearly that he knew it was a trap but had to play along.He also wanted access to the very powerful Fremen and thought with time they could swing the coming battles.

He was caught out by the swiftness of the attack and the turning of his unturnable doctor

The movie does skim it a little too quickly but I would presume that the issue of the plan and some of the minor characters input to it will become clearer in part 2.

The Atreides were fully aware of the trap. They mistake they made was in underestimating the money the Baron would spend.

The book lays it out far clearer but a hint is given to the costs of space travel in the movie when the Duke asks Thufir how much the Empire spent to send the Herald to Caladan.

Warfare in the Duniverse is very much limited to raids and small actions due to the sheer expense of Space Travel via the guild.

The Atreides knew there was a trap, the knew the Baron and the Empire were in cahoots. They did fathom just how much the Baron would be prepared to spend to bring overwhelming force to bear. The Atreides expected a raid, perhaps supported by Sardaukar and believed that they had the time to build an alliance with the Fremen and prepare to expand the Atreides army.

Outside of the Sardaukar the Atreides were the best troops in the Imperium, it's touched on in the talk between Piter De Vries and the Sardaukar on Salusa Secundus.

The Atreides knew this and thought they'd have time to grow that combat power via the fremen.

The Atreides mentat Thufir Hawat's mistake was in not recognising how much the Baron would spend to destroy them.

The book really does go into vast detail on the trap, the machinations and the plans within plans.