BLM, or WLM? [MOD WARNING: FIRST POST]

Vast majority of protests and protestors were entirely peaceful.

You know this. Refusing to acknowledge this is race baiting in itself at this point given how frequently you do it across various threads.

^^^

I always think its evidence of a particular nature people who see others advocating on behalf of someone, particularly when it isn't about a topic which immediately affects them and thinks that they are only doing it for clout or to be seen or whatever. Takes a particularly cynical or hurt or dark mind to always jump to this conclusion in my view.

There is such a thing as empathy in the world and while it is clear not everyone has it (seems the majority of threads on this forum are started by and contributed to, by people who likely don't) , thankfully society, as a whole generally does.

And while you feel the need to focus on the tiny percentage within a group advocating for something so as to dismiss it entirely, I will continue supporting anyone who is advocating for something that will help those who need help and challenge those who simply take the view of 'F'em, I'm alright'.

By that logic, you must think the dunne insulted people by saying they are only advocating in order to be seen to do it. Curious how your reaction to a difference in opinion and someone being able to explain why they disagree with others as an insult. I'm sure there's a word to describe this type of fragility? (Is that another insult? Who knows.)

Anyway, I'm not bothered either way. Thoughts and prayers for your feelings.

Hey, I've been able spend 7 years on the same account here without having to change my arguing style and have zero bans in that time so I think I'll carry on if that's ok with you.

(You think when I moved to America I had to adopt a particular style for debating? They forgot to tell me that.)

I've seen more videos of insults being thrown across the HoC and Dail Eireann in recent months than I have within the US.

People are pretty much the same in every location.

Hope he walks, seems like a decent chap.

Good riddance to them, scum judging by their records.

Post #9809 should put that strawman to bed. I'm sure he'll be back tomorrow however.

I'm not applying any such thing or trying to suggest I am 'the'agent for change or anything like that. I also dispute that I am not interested in debate either, I am here a long time contributing to topics such as these and I get frustrated at seeing the same blase dismissals of the cause used time and time again and at this point it is redundant to start from the very beginning of 'do cops treat black people differently'. The latest example of this is the poster who has clearly been around Boards a long time but has a join date of only a couple weeks, trying to dismiss any point I make by implying that all I'm doing is insulting people. (I've received not a single warning or action for insulting people on this thread and still the poster ignores the content of my post and just goes down that route). So who isn't interested in debate?

We've been through the whole thing, 'why don't they comply', 'why should the cops risk their own lives', 'what will happen if there are no cops any more', 'why don't black people worry about the problems in their community that they could change', 'what is systemic racism', 'why should modern day white people apologise for the sins of their ancestors', 'why should people outside the US care about this', 'why should we tolerate looting and violence' and so on and so on and I've provided reasonable content with respect to all these topics and at this point am met with new, or recently new accounts dismissing any notion whatsoever that the premise behind the very idea that black communities is treated unfairly with flippant dismissals of the point by targeting me for apparently having the audacity to believe that official institutions of society, which are specifically designed for to keep people safe, and are funded by taxpayers money should always strive to weed out unacceptable behaviour.

I don't enjoy a single one of these topics at this point, but we have all watched the impact in society of excessive nationalist/conservative/traditional values which, in my view, are ultimately regressive and in many cases have been hijacked by people who largely are focused purely by their own agenda and are not overly concerned about the impact on others as long as they succeed. (And I'm talking about Donald J Trump and the likes of Nigel Farage and Boris Johnson here as some examples most people are familiar with but there are others). The impact of this has been quick, real and damaging to their respective societies and I have no wish to stand aside and leave the floor to people who would like to see similar shifts in Irish societal focus and governance such as happened in those other locations so that they can push their arguments uninterrupted and as a consequence paint a particular picture as to what sentiments in Ireland are truly like.

And again, don't try to make this look like I think the fight for Irish ideology anything fanciful is happening solely on these pages. This is an anonymous platform on which only a handful of regular people contribute. But, it still is part of a public conversation on these topics, like that or hate it. Just because it's a small and anonymous part of the internet, why should I not advocate a different position just because the larger number of people who end up on these threads after a couple of weeks would wish I just fcuked off and left them to their echo chamber which they will then use as evidence that 'everyone thinks this way'?

Given this is a somewhat 'philosophical' post, lets end with a quote from someone many consider a philosopher, Homer; 'I am a lonely insignificant spec on a has-been planet orbited by a cold indifferent sun' (Homer Simpson, not the other guy). I am under no illusion as to where I stand, but I am as entitled to my position and expression as the other specks around me.

Not by any objective analysis could this be said to be true.