Leo Varadkar story in The Village??? - Mod Notes and banned Users in OP updated 16/05

Sorry for the late reply marine, working life occasionally gets in the way of odd internet arguments, needs must as they say though.

I've already been reading the replies in my absence though, it would appear that I'm correct, you're throwing around the "goading" accusation in reference to the word "subject" yet (bizarrely) admit it's the entirely correct word to use at the same time, "goading" in this instance simply boils down to = Marine Layer finding the description correct, yet uncomfortable.

The pseudonym thing, I wasn't trying to have a go by asking you if you were sure you understood the meaning of the word, because my understanding of the word, a pseudonym is a false/made up name used by authors, (for example) to hide their real name, (much like a boards username for example)

With that in mind, you simply can't be on here claiming subject = pseudonym from one side of your mouth, yet acknowledge that subject is a correct term to use from the other side, and expect to be taken seriously, because one statement contradicts the other.

Same goes for the "goading" accusations.

I wouldn't be so petty as to resort to ask you to withdraw the accusations, instead I will just suggest that you'd be as well to park them up now.

1, This morning you were practically frothing at the mouth about people "raking over guts" -

2 Few hours later, you're bewildered why people are "ignoring the past" of others.

3 And in the next sentence, mentioned something about "hypocrisy and faux distaste"

Never change Brenner, never change. 🤣🤣

Ok, I'll ask it. What is a "Sinn Fein type of apology"?

I'm not one for accepting the lesser of two evils. I got off the FF/FG merry-go-round mo chara.

I wouldn't be discussing the criminal investigation at all if not for the lot spinning yarns and talking out their barney to try dismiss it.

Lot of anger there when some linen is aired.

That's your guess, not fact.

He leaked a private and confidential negotiation document to his friend, the head of a rival union. He did that.

Why is open for debate.

If what you say is true, how would the union who's trust he breached feel toward any future deal with a lying untrustworthy Taoiseach?

'I leaked your negotiation document to a rival union for the common good', yeah it was resting in his account sure...

Ok, so to quickly recap, you're associating "goading" with "repetition" despite admitting yourself that Leo is the subject of the NCBI criminal investigation?

I've never seen such bizzare and odd behaviour on this site during the many years I've floated in and out of it Marine Layer.

You (quite rightly I might add) don't like anyone placing the assumption of guilt on Varadkar - yet (bizzarely) at the same time, have absolutely zero problems, nor shame by not affording Paddy Cosgrave the same presumption of innocence.

You admit yourself that Leo actually is the subject of a criminal investigation, yet claim people are "goading" you by stating Leo is the subject of a criminal investigation. That's just odd and bizzare behaviour, I'm not going to sugarcoat it.

The "pseudonym" thing, we've covered, initially by a suggestion that you might have meant to use a different word. However, you've clarified you using of it, (which I disagree with) and suggested people are using it in lieu of calling him a criminal to "goad you" (despite also admitting "subject" being the appropriate description.

Is Leo Varadkar the subject of the Garda criminal investigation? - yes/no ?

If you answered yes (you should have done, because there's no other correct answer) how on earth is it "goading"?

Maybe you just mean you don't like the proper description being used, if that's the case what alternative would you like boards users to type out instead, but still keeping the discussion factual?

The main Suspect in the criminal investigation?

The man at the centre of the investigation?

The guards focal point of the investigation?

All also equally correct, and no different really, in fact some sound less kind.

"Witness" was suggested earlier (I think by yourself), but that's not accurate,nor is it correct because Leo wasn't interviewed by the guards as a witness, not from the press reports I've read.

I must say, you've picked an extremely strange hill to die on, by complaining about a factually (and suggesting no alternative) description being placed on Leo Varadkars problem. The reminder that everyone must afford Leo the assumption of innocence, while disregarding same for Cosgrave, and the constant cries of " repetition" while using the same terms and phrases over and over again (I'll not be mean about it ring any bells for example?) not to mention this "my side/your side" thing you keep throwing up, like you're 11 years old.

Quite strange and odd carryon. I've no dog in the fight here, I'm (like Fionn) merely calling things out as I see them.

Sorry for the unintended over convoluted post, but some things needed to be said.

Not much more I could say or add here, so petty much my thoughts on the matter also.

You want it every which way, if you'd like to suggest an alternative way to describe Leo, and his role in the investigation "I'm all ears" as they say.

@Marine Layer

Chay Bowes (the man who "blew the whistle") disputes the story, and calls it out for the hatchet attempt it likely is.