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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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    #20972
    brickster69
    Registered Users Posts: 5,548 ✭✭✭brickster69


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118158081#Comment_118158081

    Oh come on, in mid July Ireland had 300 cases a day and 0 deaths. How can you expect a nation to open up under those circumstances.

    “The earth is littered with the ruins of empires that believed they were eternal.”

    - Camille Paglia



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    #20973
    Ha Long Bay
    Registered Users Posts: 15,086 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118158137#Comment_118158137


    Are you based in Ireland? All your posts are constant negativity of Ireland and other EU countries while praising England's approach at every turn.



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    #20974
    CutieD
    Registered Users Posts: 102 ✭✭CutieD


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118158134#Comment_118158134

    We are open for the most part and there's no point claiming that we weren't.

    Retail opened up from May

    Hotels and restaurants and cafes opened up from June. A lot of focus was on outdoor dining and mixing but indoors came from the start of July. Pubs opened up from middle July. That was a lot of sectors open and we were as good as open except for indoor events that would attract large crowds.



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    #20975
    Stheno
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118158194#Comment_118158194

    We weren't


    Office based workers were still being told to work from home. Groups were limited to six in hospitality, limits on household interactions were in place, public transport had limits on capacity


    How can you call that being open?



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    #20976
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users Posts: 5,804 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118158188#Comment_118158188

    What was the vax rate comparison at the time? No point in quoting today's %.


    Also england is on it's, well it was on its 3rd downslope and back on the increase now.



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    #20977
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118157822#Comment_118157822

    The standard ill informed passive aggressive sneery comment from raind.



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    #20978
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118157650#Comment_118157650

    You're right about the pandemic having brought pain to so many. There are people dead who would have been alive had it not been for Covid. Families have been torn apart and will be dealing with the impact of their losses probably for the rest of their lives.

    We often speak about the affect the pandemic has on our mental wellbeing. What isn't mentioned though is the amount of people who are now grieving. There's no one size fits all when you're in that place and there is certainly no getting over it.

    Every single day a person faces adversity of some kind. The world keeps turning though. Even when you are suffering and you can't comprehend why it hasn't stopped for everyone. It doesn't though.

    Have you ever offered comfort to someone who is hurt? Does it take from your joy in life? Do you feel like you need to punish yourself because you want to keep living and being happy?

    I offer comfort fairly regularly. I can be with another person's pain while at the same time loving my life. Death and struggle are truths of existence but we mustn't let those truths prevent us from experiencing our lives the best way we know how.



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    #20979
    political analyst
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    Those unvaccinated Covid ICU patients who have underlying health problems must be proud of themselves for holding everyone else hostage. It's because of them that people are talking about the idea of another lockdown in this country.



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    #20980
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118158362#Comment_118158362

    No it's not.

    It's because of our hysterical media, ultra conservative doctors, terrible leaders and poor health service.

    They've easily made people such as yourself look the other way though.



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    #20981
    political analyst
    Registered Users Posts: 4,546 ✭✭✭political analyst


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118158398#Comment_118158398

    Why would those doctors want to destabilise the economy? After all, the health service is funded by the taxes. Nobody can create extra ICU beds at the drop of a hat.



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    #20982
    Spiderman0081
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118157860#Comment_118157860

    I ordered and collected a PS5 for Christmas month’s ago. Lockdown, yes please. Protection of the vulnerable, and a PlayStation.



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    #20983
    GeorgeBailey
    Registered Users Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭GeorgeBailey


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118158362#Comment_118158362

    I'll bet they're laughing into their oxygen masks at how they've gotten 1 up on the rest of us.



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    #20984
    Sunny Disposition
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    It looks very bleak tonight, have heard of multiple events being cancelled, which is unfortunate.

    With case numbers so high and people being urged to cut contacts, we must be at the last stage before a lockdown.

    Lot of GAA county finals in the last two weeks and Id guess there was a lot of spreading after them, there are multiple videos of indoor celebrations.

    if it was last year people would have been horrified, but this year it went unremarked.



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    #20985
    charlie_says
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    Pandemic of the unboosted



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    #20986
    Multipass
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118158102#Comment_118158102

    No you don’t, you have a campus of vaccinated students with the sniffles. Leave them alone!



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    #20987
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118158419#Comment_118158419

    None of their wages or funding have been impacted to date and nor will they be. At least not in a major way.



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    #20988
    [Deleted User]
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    I doubt we'll see another lockdown. The government can't afford to borrow another 40 billion to wrap us in cotton wool for another few months.

    There might be some nonsense COVID theatre though.

    I don't think a lockdown would even achieve anything at this point anyways. They've had very limited impact since March 2020.



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    #20989
    AdamD
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    So another case of a false positive, now with the Irish Rugby team. Ordinary people do not get retested like professional rugby players or policicians, so is the testing actually accurate? Surely up for questioning

    Think an English rugby player had a false positive last week too



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    #20990
    martin101
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118158561#Comment_118158561

    Son from spurs had a false positive. Messed up all my bloody fantasy football plans.



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    #20991
    lawred2
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118158362#Comment_118158362

    Around and around the plug hole we go



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    #20992
    mcburns07
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118158445#Comment_118158445

    Not this again 🤦🏻‍♂️



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    #20993
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118158493#Comment_118158493

    No. Once you’re eligible for a booster, if you don’t take it I don’t think you’ll be classed as vaccinated

    is going to cause a problem with travel. From 15 December, France will deem unboosted over 65s as unvaccinated and won’t be able go into restaurants or take inter city trains. Given that entry restrictions mirror domestic restrictions, that means that France could be off the table for travel from December

    And Sajid Javid in the UK has said that he could not rule out following France’s plans, and barring people over 65 from going to cafés and restaurants if they failed to get coronavirus booster jabs.

    the wind is certainly only blowing one way across Europe when it comes to boosters and Covid passports



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    #20994
    Danno
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118158738#Comment_118158738

    How many boosters until the penny drops, the vaccine is only a buffer.

    The vaccine as is being proven has a shelf-life of 6mth or thereabouts in the body.

    Time to let Covid rip for once and for all - once vulnerable folk and O65s are boosted. This virus needs to burn itself out, we're actually giving it more dangerous oxygen in the form of time to mutate again otherwise.

    Stop kicking the can, bite the bullet.



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    #20995
    Ah_well.
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    I still have not seen a concrete reason as to why England which has not had a single restriction since July has been able to live life completely as normal ever since and shows absolutely no signs of backtracking . No masks no distancing no hospitality restrictions packed stadiums since summer. No ridiculous rules of dancing at your seat or wearing a mask to the jacks . Is it that they have a fantastic health system or that they have had so many infections that they have more immunity now? More tolerant attitude to higher death rates ? We undoubtedly have opened up but with a cautious slant to it all . ie.masks ,distancing ,table service in pubs the covid certs ect .England don’t have any of this yet we are are the ones talking of more restrictions having only recently opened and they appear to have no intention of doing so having been opened up months ahead of us with zero caution shown . Our caution appears to have gotten us nowhere? Their cases are very high but so are ours.Also I know they made an awful mess of it pre vaccine with terrible fatalities but im trying to understand the post vaccine phase .



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    #20996
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users Posts: 5,804 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118158767#Comment_118158767

    There's I think 7 childhood vaccines that requires 3 doses all within 3 months. So calling it a shelf-life of 6 months is a little inaccurate.

    In case you haven't noticed, it is kinda ripping through. 18% of cases are in under 12's. the remaining seems to be half vaccinated and half fully vaccinated. So that ~8% unvaccinated is reducing by ~2700 a day (1300 cases & 1500 availing of the vaccine)



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    #20997
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118158789#Comment_118158789

    There's a good bit of opposition in England. There's none in Ireland. There's the Covid Recovery Group, Lord Sumption, a good bit of media opposition in the form of Talk Radio, The Telegraph, The Daily Mail (kind of), GB news, and LBC (Maajid Nawaz). Take GB news, for instance: it launched earlier this year and is already a pretty well established news channel. There's no appetite for conservative news or conservative views in Ireland (even though a third of the population is conservative). The Irish media is 100% homogenous. No difference whatsoever between the Irish Times, The Irish Independent, RTÉ, Newstalk et al. The political parties are also identical. English people don't appear to go in for hysteria as much as Irish people do. I often think about the lady who rang Duffy on Liveline in tears because a man went on holidays to Spain. I don't think you'd ever get anything like that going on in England. I go to England regularly and people are definitely more relaxed compared with a lot of Irish people. Ireland also has the problem of needing to be the best boy in the class. I think that's why whenever you see photos of young Irish people at protests outside they are almost always wearing masks.


    I also believe that the restrictions are popular in Ireland. I think masks are popular. I think a lot of people like the idea of living through what they believe to be an unprecedented period in human history.



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    #20998
    Relax brah
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    Need to get tighter restrictions on hospitality. We are a nation of pissheads and this will end in tears



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    #20999
    bokale
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118158875#Comment_118158875

    As someone who grew up in Ireland, i've no memory of masks and restrictions being popular?

    Where are you getting this from?



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    #21000
    brickster69
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118158789#Comment_118158789

    Lot's of countries will be asking those questions soon enough.

    “The earth is littered with the ruins of empires that believed they were eternal.”

    - Camille Paglia



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    #21001
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118158916#Comment_118158916

    I mean they're popular in covid times. The restrictions didn't exist before 2020.



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