Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

A lot of barstools are since the covid cert requirement

That's not the point. I don't care about me getting sick with COVID-19, I'll likely be fine unless I'm extremely unlucky (like 1 in a million). However I can spread it asymptomatically to people who are in age groups that have far higher odds of severe outcomes even though everybody is vaccinated.

It's impossible to know if you're a close contact of an infection without testing.

There are reasonable odds that if an 80 year old in my life is infected, they could have a severe outcome even though vaccinated. I can't know if I'll infect them without testing.

I agree generally with your post but I think it's sensible to be pragmatic given issues with hospital capacity. I wont continue testing once I know there are effective therapeutics, or proper vaccines that prevent infection, etc.

Well...considering that the north is part of the UK, then yes, it would happen in the UK. The BBC are just a bad as RTE. The Stephen Nolan show, has, for months, been trying to put pressure on the executive to make vaccines mandatory for HCWs and to make vax passes necessary for entrance into pubs and nightclubs. He was even spouting about it one morning saying that they're required for pubs and nightclubs in the south, why can't we do it here (the north). He hadn't done his research as nightclubs weren't even open in the south at the time. There's loads of people that confidently post in here saying that this isn't happening anywhere else...it is. Just because you haven't heard it for yourself doesn't mean it isn't happening.

How do you know those unvaccinated who were hospitalised with covid contracted covid before going to hospital? That is surely important to know and I am guessing, given the epidemic in hospitals at the moment, that many of those in hospitals who caught covid caught it in hospital. It is not a given that unvaccinated covid patients in hospitals caught covid outside of hospital, which translates to the ineffectiveness of restrictions on the general public when the big problem is the staff and practices in hospitals.

One or two randomers, does not a country make.

The Irish medias abject lack of balance has been an issue for a good 10 years or so, particularly so in the last few years. It should of been nipped in the bud years ago, yet there was no general will to do so. Somehow the Irish people never thought that it was even a bit odd that every talking head in the media had the exact same views. Instead, Paddy assumed that they must all be right because they all share the same views. In my opinion, that's the whole point, to create a false consensus that will sway people to the side of the false consensus.

What, specifically, is 'going on' in this country that has got you so worked up? Part of what problem?

Apologies if I didn`t make it clear.

My point was that in relation to those vaccinated and unvaccinated who may have caught it in hospital, unless we know the numbers for both then it does not make much difference where they actually caught it.

Seeing as we know that those vaccinated have a much lesser risk if they do become infected of serious illness or death, then does it not make sense that to reduce the risk for those that may now becoming infected in hospitals that all hospital staff that may come in contact with hospital patients are vaccinated as well as those visiting hospitals ?

Oh. We're going to war now? This thread is mad sometimes.

I'm not sure if an actual source or just a kite being flown, but looking like little to no chance of more restrictions being introduced luckily. The Cabinet not panicking or being forced into anything rash because of NPHET. I particularly enjoyed that quote below, putting NPHET back in their box!