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Now ye're talking - to an Irishman in mandatory quarantine in Australia

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  • Company Representative Posts: 55 Verified rep I'm in Quarantine in Australia, AMA


    Haha! About 20% of the questions on here are sex or sex related!

    A few of my friends in real life have copped who I am from this thread so don't want to go into too much detail but let's say more than a normal two weeks at home in the middle of November!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,187 ✭✭✭rameire


    Do you miss your stalker friends at home?

    I'm not one.

    🌞 3.8kwp, 🌞 Split 2.28S, 1.52E. 🌞 Clonee, Dub.🌞



  • Company Representative Posts: 55 Verified rep I'm in Quarantine in Australia, AMA


    Just goes to show Ireland is a small country. I've often thought especially on the Personal Issues and Work Problems threads that if you knew the person in real life you'd often figure it out from all the specific details they give.

    Anyway,I've not said anything on here I wouldn't say to my close friends so no worries there.

    Ps Hi Law!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    To keep someone in this situation for 14 days is against all sorts of human rights laws and is also mentioned in the UN charter I believe.

    Yeah, no, it isn't. Maybe if you were pressganged into it and had no choice, you'd have a case, but you volunteered to put yourself in this position. The UN charter? Covers things like slavery, the right to marry who you want, the right to be free from persecution... Not so much on the right to voluntarily check in to a 5* hotel so you can go to a wedding...



  • Company Representative Posts: 55 Verified rep I'm in Quarantine in Australia, AMA


    You seem to be a bit confused?

    There's also a right to fresh air in there *even for prisoners*(,did you miss that bit)?

    I ended up accompanying my Mrs here (original idea was for a wedding) but other family things here became much more important. The fact we ended up where we did was a 1/20 chance.

    I'm pretty sure keeping somebody in a sealed room for 14 days is illegal?Google it. It certainly is in ireland and Australia,its not hard to find links fot that.

    I volunteered for this but many on repatriation flights didn't,you don't have a clue.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    You're right, I had no clue Australia was conducting extraordinary rendition and forced repatriation operations! All I'm saying is maybe dial back the hyperbole - you knew what you were getting into, so no, you weren't forced into a sealed room for 14 days. And it's worked for Oz - only 130,000 cases and less than 1,500 deaths, compared to 470,000 cases and 5,500 deaths here.

    If Australia's hotel/building regulations don't have rules for being able to open a window, that's admittedly a bit **** - I don't think I've ever stayed in a hotel like that, maybe in London once? - but from what I've read, it looks like you can pay a premium for a room with a balcony and/or opening windows, so it's the hotels gouging people quarantining, not the fault of the Australian government. Though with what we know about transmission, if I was organising it, I'd be insisting on availability of fresh air!

    Anyway, I hope the second week flies by and you get to enjoy the rest of your stay.



  • Company Representative Posts: 55 Verified rep I'm in Quarantine in Australia, AMA



    In some very limited cases you had an option to pay extra for a balcony ( good luck with that if as in many cases there wasn't a balcony or opening window in the hotel) in none of these cases was it official or an option before you arrived.There was a tiny number of people who managed to move hotels but none til at least after the 2nd PCR test on day 5.Personally I think $4000 for a forced mandatory hotel quarantine is enough but in my own circumstances I would have paid every penny in my bank account to get fresh air (this wasnt an option for us and through an almighty amount of luck we landed in the suite we did) "From what you've read" is not surprisingly incorrect, many of the hotels don't have any opening windows full stop,I'm currently looking at one across the road from me.Theres 2 flights a week into Adelaide, if I was on the one on the Tues rather than the Thursday I'd be in that hotel and not this one.

    You've never stayed in a hotel with non opening windows? Well as a person who notices these things I have lots of times,the last being in Dublin about 6 weeks ago.ìMost people wouldn't take too much notice of this but I'd say they would if they were confined to that space for 14/15 consecutive days and nights.

    You " insisting on fresh air" would be completely ignored (outside of the mental health nurse nodding symapathically over the phone and sending you up benzodiazapines,sleeping pills and valium) This is my main gripe with the whole situation that you seem in your own head to be completely familiar with but in true Boards warrior style haven't a notion.There are people with GP letters,psychiatrists letters,long lists of anxiety prescriptions, claustrophobia diagnosis etc,forced into sealed rooms and in a constant state of panic,it's disgusting and my heart goes out to them,I was more than likely going to be in the same position.Go on any of the main quarantine hotel fb groups and see how far people got "insisting" on fresh air.

    Thanks for your wishes of the time flying by,it is for me and I'm actually enjoying my stay.Im confident in saying I'm in the absolute minority in that, I'm in contact with lots of people currently or who have done quarantine in the the usual situation of sealed rooms,many with young kids.Some people have chalked it down to an experience and mad times,some people are struggling months later,that's the reality.

    I don't mean to come across as aggressive or narky but you genuinely haven't a clue what you're talking about.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2 glencar 22


    fool in australia why the **** didnt you stay at home whinger



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,290 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    Guessing that you are coming to an end of your quarantine so this AMA will finish, I decided to put you out of your misery. I always love that when people don’t understand something they immediately believe its BS.

    Anyway, when this pandemic started, a lot of airlines stopped flying, but many continued and were faced with the issues of following covid restrictions in their own countries and destinations. To alleviate the issues they established “operational bubbles” crews would permanently stay in quarantine and keep operating.

    This created issues with time off, when people may have had 10 days off per 30, they now required 10 days off followed by 14 days quarantine to reenter the “operational bubble”. So this lead to crewing having slow rotations that became even slower due to lockdowns or people going sick or testing positive. Vacations or rotations to home countries were even harder as the crew may have had to do 14 days quarantine on reaching home and 14 days upon return, so one month off was basically all spent in quarantine in two different countries. So crews just continued in the operational bubble as they couldn’t get home.

    Some destinations are stricter than others and they want guarantees that the crew are quarantined, so there are different levels of quarantine.

    I would assume that something similar has existed in the shipping world as crews wouldn’t be allowed to get off ship in certain destinations or their home countries were closed or required quarantine negating the ability to take days off.

    So I hope that you have enjoyed or at least survived your 14 day stint, maybe now you might understand why there are people who have done it for over 1.5 years.

    Enjoy the beers.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,290 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    @TaurenDruid, the majority of modern hotels where i have stayed do not have windows that open.



  • Company Representative Posts: 55 Verified rep I'm in Quarantine in Australia, AMA


    Wow! Thanks for coming back with that.

    That's fascinating, I did guess you were in aviation at least!

    Well that's an interesting existence for a couple of years,I presume you're young and single? I'd also assume you'd be getting danger money or some sort of bonus.I imagine not everyone at the company would enter into those conditions thus making you more in demand ( these are all assumptions of course)

    We're free to leave from 1 minute past 12 midnight tomorrow but we're actually going to stay the night,have a few sparkling Shariz in the jacuzzi,chill out and leave the next day at our leisure. The whole thing has been a breeze and I'd happily stay at this hotel again any time.Im really glad I got to say that and mean it,I often think about the majority who are in ridiculous conditions and suffering as a result especially those with kids or anxiety or claustrophobia issues.


    Can I ask some questions?

    What was the best and worst conditions you quarantined in?

    Ps apologies for doubting you!



  • Company Representative Posts: 55 Verified rep I'm in Quarantine in Australia, AMA


    I had to get out of Ireland,I just couldn't hack the lack of commas.



  • Boards.ie Employee Posts: 12,597 ✭✭✭✭✭Boards.ie: Niamh
    Boards.ie Community Manager


    @glencar 22 do not post in this thread again, warning given on your profile.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,290 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    [quote]What was the best and worst conditions you quarantined in?[/quote]

    Best - place I just left, 2 bedroom fully furnished apartment in major US named hotel chain. (windows didn’t open :))

    Worst - my home city housing compound, 500 meters away from house and not allowed go there or even interact with the dog.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,605 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Well that's an interesting existence for a couple of years,I presume you're young and single? I'd also assume you'd be getting danger money or some sort of bonus.

    I expect you're wrong on both counts!

    Scrap the cap!



  • Company Representative Posts: 55 Verified rep I'm in Quarantine in Australia, AMA


    I think I'd prefer the second option as long as there was fresh air!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,290 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed




  • Company Representative Posts: 55 Verified rep I'm in Quarantine in Australia, AMA


    You must have a very understanding partner!

    I figured you'd have to be on bonus money,I guessing you get some sort of supplement for time spent in quarantine (don't bother answering if too intrusive)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,290 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    Hope you enjoy your freedom starting tomorrow.



  • Company Representative Posts: 55 Verified rep I'm in Quarantine in Australia, AMA


    Thanks! We're happily institutionalised at this stage and will find it weird to have ro make decisions like when and what to eat!



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,651 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    Given the thread is not closed yet, I have 1 more question. What's it like being freeeeeee?



  • Company Representative Posts: 55 Verified rep I'm in Quarantine in Australia, AMA


    I don't really feel I had the real proper quarantine experience that most had,our suite was the kind of set up we wouldn't be able to afford for a weekend away,it was luxurious. I really enjoyed the time as there was no stress,nothing to worry about,5 star meals and it was more relaxing than a lot of holidays I've been on.

    As a result the anticipated Nelson Mandela moment didn't really materialise!

    I think the thread is going to close now so thanks to all who took part,it was fun!



  • Boards.ie Employee Posts: 12,597 ✭✭✭✭✭Boards.ie: Niamh
    Boards.ie Community Manager


    Thanks for all the questions and to our guest for taking the time to answer them! I'll close this up now and let him enjoy his holiday 😊

    As always, if you would like to do an AMA yourself, send me a PM or an email (niamh@boards.ie) and we'll talk :)



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