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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,133 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    If you were trawling through her 1000s of posts you would surely have noticed that GG is an ICU nurse dealing daily with Covid patients . Perhaps you would then have realised then why she has interest in this thread and her very informative insight into the reality of this pandemic



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,428 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    I read the original post,

    I understand the tone quite clearly thanks.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,063 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl




  • Registered Users Posts: 13,063 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    So glad 😊

    Lived abroad for many years working in various countries .

    Had an interest in home for good or for bad and would have been on boards then if it was available too .

    Apologies for that stirring comment, I edited that straight after ;)



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,074 ✭✭✭kittensmittens


    Well unfortunately, I disagree with you. Our successive governments have covered up so much for the health service over the years with zero intention of ever making it, or anyone involved in it accountable, and that, for me, this is the final straw. Covid was yet another showing of how incompetent and corrupt our political leadership are when it comes to matters relating to the fat and bloated money pit that the HSE is.

    Far too many suckling at its teat in my opinion and in any other sector it wouldn't be tolerated. Covid has allowed them to get away with so much. Far too many people haven't felt any financial hardship so they haven't a breeze of the many aspects of Covid, not just "de numbers"



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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,063 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl




  • Registered Users Posts: 729 ✭✭✭SupplyandDemandZone


    Wow I see xenophobia has made its way into the thread.

    My dad was born in Liverpool am I allowed share an opinion?



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,063 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Are you talking about healthcare workers when you make that " suckling " comment ? I hope not !

    The rest is standard enough complaint which a lot of those HCWs would agree with btw, but are precluded from talking about much in public ( little things like contracts and confidentiality) .

    So when you say you disagree with me what exactly are you disagreeing with? ;)



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,074 ✭✭✭kittensmittens


    Healthcare workers, like porters? Not in a million.

    But to be perfectly frank, I have zero interest in going down this wormhole with you, we both know where you are trying to lead it. Its 10.45pm on my one day a week off and I'm still working(with the ever so slight distraction of boards brought on by seeing Paul Reids smarmy mush on the 6.1 😁) so in the interest of sanity, I'll bid you adieu GG



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,063 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    It depends what side of the Mersey he came from😊



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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,063 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Goodnight all you lovely people ,take care 😊



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,663 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased




  • Registered Users Posts: 13,063 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    It's not one or the other , maybe a bit of both.

    If you want to know look at hospital stats and you can see transfers.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,760 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    Paul Reid yesterday: "An immediate reduction by all of us of risk activities is needed to turn this around" (sic)


    Meanwhile:




  • Registered Users Posts: 12,962 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    Let them eat cake.


    Wasn't MM gallivanting over in Glasgow with Rip Van Ryan there recently as well?

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,074 ✭✭✭kittensmittens


    He's some man for one man our Mr Reid, thats for sure. If he wasn't such a disgrace, you'd almost give him a clap on the back for the length of his neck.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,308 ✭✭✭alias no.9




  • Registered Users Posts: 102 ✭✭CutieD


    This is different and well you know it so please stop twisting things to fit your narrative.


    I presume the graduation was some sort of a work related function. Perhaps as CEO of the Hse he was handing out graduation papers. I don't know.

    From the pictures that were shown here, it looks like social distancing has been maintained. You're making a problem out of nothing and just wanting to see people/organisations/health officals fail.


    For many in the population, life is moving back to the old way and we know social distancing is being maintained in many places any more - in pubs, restaurants, nightclubs.


    Work and school are essential and many people don't have a choice to cut work and school contacts. Many people do have a choice to reduce social contacts in order to reduce the growth of the virus.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    @Arghus I don't want to quote your whole post so will @ you instead :)


    I agree with you. The case numbers and the hospital numbers are linked. Since the beginning of the pandemic the rise in positives lead to increase hospital admissions. I had thought that communication could change in relation to the above focus but really they go hand in hand.

    We can't simply talk about the numbers in the health system without also looking at the number of positive tests. Me wishing it were different doesn't make it so.

    Will the time come when the daily numbers are truly meaningless? Will we see 5000 people test positive and very few need inpatient intervention? That was my hope with the vaccines



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,760 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue




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    But...but...look over there de cases. Paul Reid will always have his cheerleaders, including several disingenuous chancers on this thread. None of whom have anything to lose naturally. Imagine being on 400K per annum and having the audacity to condescend to a beyond fed-up public that it is their fault for a woeful health service completely unfit for purpose. One would assume that the mere premise of a hospital system is that it serves the needs of the public rather than the other way around. Reid is trying to flip the script in most cynical fashion, turning the microscope on the Irish people when he won't address glaring pitfalls of HSE. Quick, highlight the case numbers and us neanderthals won't notice.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Sone people equate freedom of speech with freedom to spread lies and bullish!t without being challenged



  • Registered Users Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    As GG says, unless we can see the transfer data, that doesn't necessarily tell us there are outbreaks. It is most likely that COVID+ patients are being transferred from smaller or private hospitals to the main centres.

    Given the surge in hospital numbers early last week, the relatively small increase so far over the weekend is encouraging. If this morning's numbers come in under 650, then we'll be in a much better place than I expected.



  • Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    It's not that they don't have an effect but the totals are a very disproportionate driver of public health policy despite the fact that nobody including NPHET can even guess at how many cases will lead to hospitalisation. Messaging around it is right out of last Christmas and it is beginning to look like NPHET want to start forcing issues again.



  • Registered Users Posts: 729 ✭✭✭SupplyandDemandZone


    Newstalk calling for fines for people not wearing masks in toilets at events 🤣🤣🤣🤣



  • Registered Users Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Honestly, read the last NPHET letter of 11th Nov. It says, "The NPHET further advises that a small number of additional measures should be considered by Government in relation to advice regarding working from home and the extension of the COVID Pass system to other areas.", and that's it.

    Anything outside of that all is the media whipping it up. NPHET wants the government to consider reinstating the general, "Work at home if at all possible" advice (not rule, advice), to look at whether it would be possible to use the COVID pass in some other close-quarters businesses, and for an improvement in messaging around social distancing and mask-wearing.

    There's certainly not a hint of, "We must improve our response to save Christmas" coming from the letter. Though they are meeting again at the end of the month, and that could change.



  • Registered Users Posts: 102 ✭✭CutieD


    People are going to see Paul Reid at a function or 2 and use it to justify their own behaviours of getting into packed pubs and other crowds over and over.


    We were asked to cut down on socialising to reduce our social contacts in order to reduce the growth of the virus. The health officals are not asking the population to **** on our plans or for the craic or whatever but the virus and the pandemic still poses a significant threat to the population. The virus is appearing differently in everyone but there is flu type of sickness involved for 3+ weeks. Who wants to be sick like that especially now so close to Christmas? Who wants to be sick at Christmas time? I know some people on boards.ie like to claim is virus is a little sniffle but it's not for all and who wants to see sickness spread? There's an element of cruelty wishing to see virus and sickness spread onto the population.


    We weren't asked to stop socialising altogether. We were asked to scale it back a few notches so Paul Reid attending a function where social distancing occurred is irrelevant.



  • Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Remember in October 2020 when NPHET were happy with level 3 but then Tony decided he wanted to throw the country into lockdown and less than a week later we were locked down for 6 of the next 7 months with only 7 days of inter county travel permitted?

    Or October 2021 when Nolan told us that the virus was almost suppressed and they could see no reason why October 22nd shouldn't go ahead. A week or so later the hysteria started and October 22nd was cancelled.

    I personally don't believe a word that comes out of their mouths. If ICU increases by 20 they'll be running to the their friends in the media to put pressure on.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    We were asked to halve/cut our socialising however. By Mr. HSE who's managed to fit in a college graduation, a piss up in Leitrim, the rugby match, and an indoor football function in the space of a few days.

    Nothing he's done is in anyway wrong. But it's mighty hypocritical that he's having a great time (including travelling to the Covid hotspot of Leitrim at the moment!), while he tells everyone else it's our fault for socialising and we need to halve it.



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