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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,278 ✭✭✭Cork2021




  • Registered Users Posts: 2,278 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    Hell of a lot of people walking not having a notion they’ve covid! But natural immunity is getting closer now, if those figures are correct



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭Tyrone212


    I'm already vaccinated but I don't want a mrna vaccine. Not that I think anything mad about dna. It's purely the myocarditis risk for young men which I am. France and Germany recently scrapped moderna for men 30 and under due to it. With Pfizer the risk is lower but still elevated. The incidence of myocarditis was much higher after the 2nd dose than the first so what impact will a third dose have on young men?

    I know you can get myocarditis from a covid infection. Its just an anxiety thing I have. Anything to do with the heart gives me heebee jeebees. I'd be worried about it for ages after the jag , I train frequently too and with myocarditis you're supposed to not elevate your heart rate for 6 months after it.

    So if they want young men to get another vaccine to be deemed fully vaccinated, I'll be waiting for a new vaccine to appear as it seems j&j and AstraZeneca are out the window when it comes to boosters.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,459 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    Bad for the nightclubs - just open and they're effectively closed again.

    I can see how it will reduce socialisation though - instead of heading to a club and mixing with hundreds of people, you're at a table in a pub with a limited number of people and head back to a house party with a small group of people at most.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    Its so close you can almost smell it!....oh wait, I cant



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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,371 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Fair enough, but as you say, you can get myocarditis from a Covid infection, which might be a risk as vaccines wane. Perhaps talk to your healthcare provider? But it is ultimately your choice. Make sure it's an informed one.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,061 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    They have increased the ICU beds to 300 with another 19 on the way .

    The issue is staff trained to work independently in ICU , which is ongoing , and the present beds are restricted staffing wise because of people off due to Covid.

    Surge capacity into high dependency areas is being used since last week to keep regular services going . . Also there are many patients getting positive pressure respiratory support on main wards , which is normally highdependency care .

    This putting a lot of pressure on the staff in busy wards who have now much sicker patients than they usually have to deal with along with their usual workload.

    Elective surgery and procedures have been progressed to private hospitals for the last month to ease pressure .

    Surge capacity to private hospitals is general care if used keeping ICU and Covid in public system .

    ICU runs normally at 100% capacity pre pandemic , with some beds reserved for post elective major surgery . So we are used to being full .

    However with Covid the numbers of people required to run separate ICU services is more than just normal surge as happens during busy winters or major accidents . As has been said before it requires total separation from doctors and nurses to porters, admin and cleaning staff .

    The big difference with this surge is the health system is trying to keep non Covid care going as well.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,371 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Thank you @Goldengirl for informing us of the situation on the ground throughout this.



  • Registered Users Posts: 23,527 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    My fat finger accidenally hit post on an old draft and I cant delete.


    Thanks Vanilla.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Do the extra 19 include trained staff as opposed to just beds and machinery?

    Can only imagine the strain trying to rum 2 separate ICUs



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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,332 ✭✭✭prunudo


    I think the government would get a lot more respect and adherence to new guidelines if they were honest about the hospital numbers. Rather than trying to blame hospitality, unvaccinated, etc. if they just said listen, its spreading in the community, its not an issue for the majority but if you present in hospital for something else and happen to be positive it puts strain on the health service.

    Instead we have this nonsense of them trying to justify new restrictions and making it out that its because it of lots of seriously ill covid patients.



  • Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The big problem we have now is that there is no plan but more importantly perhaps there is no hope. And hope is a very important thing.

    What we have is 93% vaccinated and it's still not enough to remove restrictions.

    I doubt we'll have the same level taking the boosters now that people know it won't return life to normal anyways.

    Essentially restrictions are now here to stay in the medium term at least but I think compliance has now waned so much that they won't make a difference anyways.

    And young people will find ways to adapt. Weekends over to England and up North is becoming the norm now. Those countries can have the money that we don't want.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,540 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    2 more weeks to flatten the curve....

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,371 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    What are you trying to say? People should avoid going to hospital??



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    Lads checking in from UK here - what's happened? Too many hospital admissions? I thought your vaccine progress was about the same as ours? Will we be following you back into lockdown? Well and truly sick of this Covid BS!



  • Registered Users Posts: 495 ✭✭Láidir agus Dílis


    When last weeks covid deaths averaged 11 per day, compared to 5 per day for the same week last week it raised a big question..

    Are the vaccines really protecting the old and vulnerable? That's a lot of deaths, around 330 a month at that rate. And we have a fair idea they will go up. Covid was supposed to have 'taken' the really vulnerable last winter and in Spring 2020. Have the low hanging fruit gotten higher?



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Case rates rising massively and a health care system that won't cope if it doesn't improve

    That said most stuff is open, I was really passed about the wfh announcement as I've been going to the office part time and after a year and a half it was nice



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux




  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Well no. They are fearful if the health service gets overloaded it will collapse.

    If they came out and said they had made mistakes over boosters and not increasing capacity that would be better imo



  • Registered Users Posts: 24,357 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Why all of us though?

    Vast majority do not suffer from this illness.

    Surely immunity is an issue for an individual. Forcing my neighbor to take a vaccine doesn't do jack sh*t for my immunity.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 187 ✭✭ShadowTech


    Honest answer from my perspective: I was stupid enough to believe those in authority when they dangled the carrot of normality in front of our faces in exchange for the population being vaccinated. I took the vaccine not because I was worried about my health or indeed anyone else's. I took it because the lockdowns, the constant moving of goalposts, the abnormal "new normal" crap with masks and social distancing made me want to crawl into a hole and die and the promise of vaccines was normality. And what I got instead was masks everywhere even after vaccination, abnormal socialising with half-full pubs and reservations that kill spontaneity. I got the detestable vaccine certificate and scapegoating of everyone and everything under the sun (except for the chronic mismanagement of the HSE of course!). And I got a constant fear the government would take my quality of life away again (which they're clearly working towards doing now).

    It's not so much that I don't want to get a booster. It's just that I see no point in doing it. The booster won't get us out of this just like the original vaccine doses didn't. The promise of normality is a lie... although in fairness to the government I guess they're not even bothering to lie about getting back to normal anymore.



  • Registered Users Posts: 729 ✭✭✭SupplyandDemandZone




  • Registered Users Posts: 495 ✭✭Láidir agus Dílis


    Well in terms of vulnerable elderly people, there should be a lot less after the last 2 years. We didn't mass produce a crop of elderly and vulnerable this year!

    And wasn't the vaccine to protect the new crop..



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,973 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Undoubtedly it adds to the workload but we're using it for two separate things then. The hospital workload and how dangerous covid is. It can't really be used for that as those people aren't being admitted cos of covid, they've gone on for something else.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,061 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl




  • Registered Users Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    Our mortality rate was similar to previous years I thought.



  • Registered Users Posts: 729 ✭✭✭SupplyandDemandZone


    People living their lives isn't "poor behaviour", it's just normality.



  • Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Vaccines sadly don't cure cancer, old age and other advanced illnesses.



  • Registered Users Posts: 495 ✭✭Láidir agus Dílis


    These are covid deaths. 5 a day last year to 11 a day with the great vaccines to prevent most elderly deaths.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 495 ✭✭Láidir agus Dílis


    These are recorded covid deaths. 5 a day last year to 11 a day with the great vaccines to prevent most elderly deaths. That's using the same parameters to record a covid death as last year.



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