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Will there be another lockdown?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,169 ✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    I am fully vaxxed and fully intend on getting the booster. However I still find this statement unnerving. I guess I still believe in people having the choice to take a vaccine that was rolled out faster than any other vaccine ever. The long terms effects are simply unknown. It it highly probable that there will be zero long term effects but we do not know for sure. If people want to risk not taking a vaccine, then I don't want this poor government to force them.

    Post edited by Cluedo Monopoly on

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,189 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    Also it is crazy that they are allowing unvaxed people move here to work, so what if you just did a test to show you dont have covid on arrival, what happens when you get covid and take up a bed in an Irish hospital? disgusting that they are allowed in.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,163 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Insisting on the production of a valid covid cert and ID at every indoor facility would put pressure on the non vaxed. Shops, cinemas, buses etc



  • Registered Users Posts: 604 ✭✭✭marilynrr


    Luckily I'm not interested in sharing my reasons with you then 😊

    It's amusing to me that you seem to think you are the moral police and that you can judge a persons character based on vaccination status. As I said previously some of the kindest people I know you are completely devoted to helping others are in fact unvaccinated!



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,189 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    And giving out big fines to anyone using someone else's covid cert and to the idiots who let the unvaccinated use their covid certs.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,169 ✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    For the most part, IDs are not getting checked. Very rare in fact.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



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    That works out well then, because I'm not interested in hearing your excuses. 😊



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Media are begging for lockdown. Claire Byrne must be building a bunker under the shed. Pat Kenny is objecting to building around Killiney Hill in case they discover his elaborate tunneling system.

    The Vintners and Restaurants lobby's are piss weak. The Vintners were bought off with Minimum Pricing of Alcohol. The restaurants association guy (Adrian Cummins) is an absolute softboy. His Twitter page is basically a government mouthpiece. Don't be surprised if he finds himself in a government appointed position in the next few years as a thank you for keeping his mouth shut.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Cinemas and theatres are now being added to the list of venues that will require a covid cert, going forward.

    I've heard mention of gyms and hairdressers requiring them also.

    I got mocked in another thread a week or two ago, because I walked out of a hairdressing salon where there was no sanitiser, and none of the staff or customers were masked or socially distanced, even though salon staff are supposed to be masked.

    Maybe if businesses had actually followed what was asked of them, there would be no need to extend covid passes to them.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I know someone who isn't vaccinated. At first I was a bit....really? Then I started to admire their courage to take a decision which can put them outside much of society. It isn't easy to go your own way at times. Anyways their decision is based on fear. They are really scared of taking a vaccine that they deem to be 'new' and what it might mean for them.

    My view is different to theirs but I'm not angry with them because I have compassion. Some of you speak about how awful people are who don't want restrictions, some of you thank heartless posts on threads dedicated to our mental health, the same people who expect us all to fall in line with their way.

    I'm not getting through this in a 'perfect' way. My compassion gets tested too. I am trying though because I believe when we can reach across to our fellow humans and try to understand them, the anger and frustration falls away. We become more open to the individual motivations and struggles.

    I've said similar at the beginning of this pandemic. We should really try a bit harder with each other.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It's 12 a.m. I'm outta here 👋



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭Ellie2008


    This is one of the best Covid posts I’ve ever read. I wish I personally knew more people like you. I wish that compassion & understanding were more evident in today’s world.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭olestoepoke


    Lets be honest, the covid certs are on the whole a bit of a joke. don't get me wrong a good idea in theory but from what I've seen and from what people I know in their 20s who have been socialising in nightclubs enforcement of the certs and restrictions within a lot of premises is are only there for show, and this is in Dublin, I can only imagine what it is like in rural Ireland.



  • Registered Users Posts: 151 ✭✭Mr Burny


    Graduated fines for the unvaccinated might motivate them and get them over their silly internet nut job conspiracy fears



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Yeah, it's just coercion/discrimination to get everyone onto the booster/"health pass" programme (boosters every five months).

    Hold firm and say no, or it will never end 🙂



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,189 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    Life is definitely easier to have the covid cert if travelling out if Ireland.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Ah, so it's those pesky hair salons driving up the numbers during flu season, is it? 😄



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Do you know some pregnant women wont get the vaccination due to the risk of having a miscarriage? My pregnant partner wont get the vaccine due to that risk because she had previous miscarriages and she knew one woman who had a miscarriage at 19 weeks after having the vaccine



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,470 ✭✭✭✭Dav010


    I do know, why does your partner think she is more likely to miscarriage if she gets a vaccine? As your partner would have been able to tell the women she knew, unfortunately miscarriages occur for various reasons unrelated to vaccination.

    I’d suggest she reads the article linked by floorpie earlier, the risks to mother and baby of Covid during pregnancy are significant.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 692 ✭✭✭cheezums


    The people who choose not to get vaccinated are doing so from a position of pure ignorance though. They get their "facts" about the vaccine from facebook group echo chambers or whatsapp groups and refuse to listen to scientists and medical professionals. I cannot respect that in any way shape or form. It should be condemned and called out at every opportunity.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Do you know anyone who suffered a miscarriage? Do you know the pain and suffering they go through after having one? She is not taking that risk of going through another one. She has had covid already before getting pregnant and she sees no need to get the vaccine until the baby is born. And anyway its peoples choice if they get the vaccine or not. I have had my vaccine but i know lots of people who havent got it and dont want to get it and thats there personal choice which I have no problem with.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,680 ✭✭✭CorkRed93


    reading todays papers its nailed on. i'll say 2 weeks.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,826 ✭✭✭✭Danzy




  • Registered Users Posts: 14,470 ✭✭✭✭Dav010


    So the risk of Covid to baby and mother is considered less than the risk of a vaccine, at a time when infection rates are increasing?

    According to this article, 10% of ICU admissions are pregnant women, most unvaccinated.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0826/1242997-coronavirus-maternity/

    I support your right to choose, but at least make an informed decision and don’t be scaremongering linking miscarriages to vaccines.



  • Registered Users Posts: 29,461 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    There's a propaganda campaign going on here. Your post is just pure anti vax propaganda full of lies weasel words and nonsense.

    There has been no proper discussion? What is that even supposed to mean?

    You obviously haven't a clue about how medicines and vaccines are produced if you are trotting out nonsense like "designed on a computer in a few days". How should they have designed it? On a chalkboard?

    The vaccines are safe and effective. The differential rates of hospitalisation and ICU for vaccinated versus unvaccinated demonstrates that they work.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Do you believe everything RTE report? There is no scaremongering whatsoever. My partner was attending a private clinic during her pregnancy and she asked the doctor for advice on the vaccine. He didnt tell her what to do but did mention that there was a chance she could miscarriage if she did take the vaccine but there was a low chance she would end up in ICU due to her having covid already. I know what chance I would be taking



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,897 ✭✭✭Dickie10


    i suppose the big elephant in the room is schools, big question over will schools reopen in january now or remote teaching come back like last spring? personally i would love to have holidays from january to march, i could get all the farm work done , suit me better to teach in summer when evenings are long than january to march



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,412 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    Where is your buddy's compassion towards the vulnerable in society who either cannot get a vaccine, or for whom the vaccine has minimal efficacy?

    Here we have a case where society is doing its bit but your buddy is free-riding because they know they'll get the benefits of everyone else doing it without having to do their own bit. In other areas of society when people are scrounging and sitting on the backs of others efforts we at least have nominal rules against that. For example, if someone is on the dole then they are supposed to be looking for work. Many don't in reality, but society doesn't officially say it is alright for them to do so.

    As for many posts you see about people moaning about their own "mental health" - well I will take that seriously if they also have been to see a professional about it. If someone is aware enough of mental health issues to diagnose that they are suffering from them, then they will be aware enough to get themselves to see a doctor or counsellor. Otherwise they are just using and abusing other people's genuine issues for their own selfish reasons.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    @[Deleted User]

    Well, that's all lovely. But my compassion for the people who are gambling with this virus ran out when a third person close to me died of covid.

    I'd prefer if the uncautious and/or the unvaccinated kept a safe distance from me - at least 2 meters at all times, preferably more - while wearing masks. I certainly won't be reaching out to them or making excuses for them, thanks all the same.



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