Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

Apologies. I dint mean literally like the vaccine. Just more false hope that normality will resume once they are in use. You'd be naive to think our winters wont have restrictions from here on.

I'd be inclined to agree. It feels like its an attempt to be seen to do something; it really feels like tinkering around the edges.

634 in hospital this morning, up 20.

COVID is not never-ending, it will eventually run out of people to infect to the point of serious illness and fade into the background. There will be more tools like these anti-virals to help do that. We'll also see next generation vaccines, probably in the next year, with an ability to blunt it even more.

Reasoning?

Micheal Martin is basically the **** junior B manager who is losing a game but hasn't a clue why or what to do about it, so he takes the corner forward off.

Don't look for reason here, there is none, just reactive nonsense from incompetents.

As one poster said if Ireland gets through the winter without a lockdown the future could be bright. If we do go into lockdown the future is bleak and there’s not much to look forward to expect lockdowns after lockdowns because the virus isn’t going away. Life in Ireland will merely become an existence.

The only saving graces are maybe consider emigration, i’ll be relocating to the states for a while once a lockdown announcement is made. The other is that some experts claim the virus will become endemic by next year and will be just like colds and flu’s because of immunity from vaccines and natural infections.

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I just popped out for a coffee there, seems normal enough!

I think people are more frustrated by the fact that the vaccines were incentivised on the basis of getting back freedoms, and now the government is rowing back on that so soon. I know a lot of people are coming across as now believing that the vaccines weren’t worth a damn from a medical standpoint, but I think for most people it’s a question of “what was the point if the vaccines don’t give the government the leeway to give us back our enjoyment of life?”. People are concerned that more restrictions are on the way and your post itself actually sums up the cynicism many are feeling — the new restrictions won’t achieve much — so the inevitable conclusion seems to be that the government will continue turning the screw until there is a visible difference. Because they desperately need to demonstrate that it’s all worth it in the end.

Like there is only so long you can wave this “isn’t it enough that we are saving lives?” at people before the message gets lost in a mass of people starting to question the extent to which we should restrict life to preserve life.

Of course they don't want them to be free because then cases would skyrocket. They must be the only Government on the planet that do not want to find positive cases for some bizzare reason.

Donnelly definitely doesn't know what he's talking about. By all accounts he doesn't read the reports he's given, he just goes on air and wings it.

That being said - and don't take this to be in any way a defence of Donnelly - the difference between 150 (or 200) in ICU in January and now, is the growth rate. When we hit 220 in ICU in January, it was crossed fingers time. That number could have been 300 inside of a week, 400 in ten days. ICU numbers went from 25 to 210 in four weeks, straight up with no pauses. We've gone from 74 to 114 in four weeks with lots of ups and downs.

So now, 200 in ICU is not great, it means our permanent ICU capacity is 66% full dealing just with Covid. But we also know that increases would remain slow and drippy rather than running out of control.

You really should take a chill pill. It’s not good for your health. But anyway i was giving what if scenario’s. I didn’t say that there’s going to be a lockdown. I definitely won’t be in one anyway, and that is for sure.

Claire Byrne keeping her language calm and measured as per usual on the radio.

Great stuff.

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