Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

Was the efficacy results of those trials released in September 2020 ?

Pfizer Phase 1 & 2 clinical trials were to deterine the safety, immunogenicity and optimal dose levels were the not ?

Far as I recall efficacy levels were not released by Pfizer until November 2020 after Phase 3 trials that did did not even begin until end of July 2020.

Where's this figure from, where "eligible but unvaccinated" are differentiated from vaccinated and ineligible unvaccinated in term of cases?

I don't think it'd a case of telling the truth or lying. It's a case of Varadkar opening his mouth and shíte coming out. He doesn't believe half of what he says himself. He talks for the sake of talking.

The opposition is SF. They've never called for a zero covid policy.

Because they're making it up as they go along, introducing meaningless restrictions that will have no effect on spread. All so when they stand in front of the microphones they can say they haven't closed various sectors and everything is open as they said it would be.

Philip Nolan on Newstalk doubling down that they were right not to reopen fully during the summer. That's 2 years in a row they've done that. What's the bet it'll happen again next year?

They seem to be under the impression they are some form of new celebrity. Public health figures are the new rock stars in their own minds.

Data from the HSE about the last 2 weeks has hospitalisations now at about 1.1%(11 cases per 1,000). If NPHET are going to use data it should use post-vaccination data and not add in the huge numbers from the first part of the year.

How in the **** does Nolan get away with stating this without any challenge. His last projections weren't worth wiping your ass with and here he is again with his "optimistic" scenario of 200000.

1) Approx 511k cases total since March 2020 here - Nolans projections have nearly half of that entire 18 month span occurring in December.

2) At no stage and at no point in the last 18 months have we approached anywhere near 450 ICU. Nowhere.

Why is he not being dragged out in front of the cameras with this bullshit and grilled to explain every single assumption and where it came from, what data is it based on and has the data been even verified by anybody else outside of NPHET. It cannot be allowed to continue that this poor data and completely inaccurate projections from this absolute spoofer be used to drive public health measures without a peer review of some sort.

The Chair of NPHET’s Irish Epidemiological Modelling Advisory Group said the possibility in an “optimistic scenario” of 200,000 cases of the virus in December is “not inevitable”. 

Speaking to RTÉ’s Morning Ireland, Nolan said those models are based on what might happen if nothing changes over the coming weeks in terms of people’s level of social contact and the care taken to prevent transmission. 

He said if nothing else changes the country is on “a trajectory towards very large case numbers and very large numbers of people in hospital coinciding with Christmas”. 

Nolan said a risk that 450 people might need intensive care by Christmas is “possible”, but added that “we’re trying now to do everything we can to avert that scenario”.

I didn't avoid it , it was introduced in the late 1980s . I'd guess most over 35 didn't get in unless retrospectively.

sadly i'm over 35 now. I had all the vaccines that were about at the time.

it would be weird to report people to tusla for medical choices but i guess if covid taught me one thing is that people like reporting others.

yet you think those that did read it and once made aware of the risks and decided "no thanks "

so one might as well not read it in that case.