Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

Hard to challenge these people when we've the most pussyish media out there.

Claire Byrne put farage down but hadn't the balls.. literally.. to question our own shower of steady now politicians and wannabe celebrities.

We are far too docile to do anything but scream "ah for feck sake.. ah well what can ya do eh"

3 weeks it lasted and even then they'd rolled back on removing all restrictions.

This is lockdown talk if I ever seen it. Buckle up folks.

I see many nightclubs in our country are now shifting to "late afternoon clubs" fair play to them for trying to make lemonade from lemons, hopefully the govt can realise they are wrong to restrict hospitality to midnight closing!

news for you, i've sons who are young lads any any reasonable measures.

some of us have a perspectives beyond their own hole.

edit ,

we have some countries suspending covid vaccines due to hearts issues, why? if it's so clear cut. the truth is the data is evolving and the full extent of the vaccines side effects won't be known nor collated for some time to come especially if the side effects werent identified initially as vaccine related.

We were sold a pup on the vaccine , sure it helps but it doesn't work as we were told - despite the reassurances that this was the greatest effort ever in history , nothing like this can be rushed . despite the resources thrown at it.

you and many of the pro-lockdown/ pro vaccine people (esp in the media and Dail) debate this as if we should follow a textbook of instructions and that everybody's needs/wants and risk/reward thresholds are the same.

news for you , they aren't.

I said that in September 2020 we did not have vaccines let alone know what they could do if anything.

The interim data on the Phase I/II study didn`t change that. They were only in relation to safety, immunogenicity and dose levels. Not only were the numbers small with a narrow age group (76 participants aged 19-54 where just 45 were vaccinated) Pfizer stated in that interim report "...findings are not proof of vaccine efficacy. Efficacy will be determined in a pivotal Phase III trial."

This is fantastic for Mehole & Co. A ready made scapegoat in a few weeks time. "we didnt foresee young people trying to make the best of a bad thing and still flocking to these Evening Clubs"

I came back from the UK a few weeks ago.

Nobody checked my Covid Cert or passenger locator form in Dublin . Were they supposed to ?

Mind you, you would swear that Covid never existed over there. It was amazing.

They do spot checks at the airport - they don't check every person.

Since you *might* be the person they check, it's a gamble to not have it.

When I was asked for mine they were happy as soon as I reached into my pocket to get it and then rushed me on without actually examining it.

I admire the positivity but I think that will likely happen by next week as our numbers will go berserk

In 2 weeks time we should have the over 80s boosters done and a fine dent made in the other 2 groups. I would expect our hospital numbers to start falling by then also

All things going well they should reopen the pubs in 3 weeks time

I'm basing this on a slightly slower increase in the 2 week hospital numbers this week vs last 95 vs 121 (702 in the 2 weeks to yesterday, 607 in the 2 weeks to the 10th and 486 in the 2 weeks to the 3rd) and deaths this week down about 40% on last (43 v 74)

Of course I could be very wrong but lets see what happens in the next few days

When did pubs get closed???

The pubs are still open

so are nightclubs just they have to close at midnight

Nightclubs generally only come to life at midnight when pubs close in

The Nolan Show on BBC Radio this morning after the announcement that pubs, clubs, restaurants, cinemas and concerts would require passes from the 13th of December - "Lateral Flow Tests can be forged...we'll need proof of vaccination *and* a negative test!" He's going to have more of this tomorrow. It's been the same for weeks in the lead up to yesterday's announcement. "Why don't we have certs like the south?" Certs announced (along with a DUP ammendment to allow LFT). "Lateral Flow Tests aren't good enough!" "Why aren't places of worship included?!" You think the media in the south is bad...

In theory not ‘closed’ , just soulless sterile, and a bit like sitting in a dentists waiting room.

Pubs as we knew them are finished. The days of an informal meeting with the lads (or girls) are gone.

of course someone is going to post and say ‘my pub isn’t like that’ - it is. Showing your papers to have a pint is the stuff of East Germany.