Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

People wanting the children of unvaxxed people to be effectively punished???

Jesus Christ these people need to get a big mirror and take a long hard look at themselves!! Honestly.

Is that what this is doing to people? Honestly these people are just a few steps away from setting up the camps at this stage!

The oul stay in a lockdown to avoid a lockdown

That sounds like a whole lot of guesswork. Case numbers are not the problem anyway as we know, although getting them down a good bit certainly means potentially fewer in hospital. What's annoying people about the current models is how the most pessimistic outcomes are being used to alarm people into changing behaviour.

My huge concern is that this can't even become endemic here the HSE is so bad

Other countries will deal with it year round going forward but here I don't think we can

And we can't afford another lockdown

UK new hospital data out. Older people still bearing the worst of it but hopefully the next reports shows boosters turning things around them.

Good question

Before people were vaccinated, vulnerable people required ICU treatment.

Those unvaccinated in ICU are unhealthy & vulnerable, even with the vaccine a number of those will end up in ICU and hospital on top of the 50% vaccinated already in there.

That's a great post talking about something I explicitly didn't say. No, we can't force people to be jabbed. And we shouldn't.

But we can treat them differently for their bad choices in the interests of public health. There's nothing ethically wrong with that.

This is the thing. 60 people in icu vaccinated and 60 not.

Its not simply a case of those 60 wouldnt be in icu if vaccinated which is the rhetoric being put out there.

Would half of them still be in icu anyway?

UK adding the booster or 'dose no. 3' to their vaccine passport for travel- How long before it happens here and the divide and conquer campaign starts against those selfish un-boosted? The conversion of conspiracy theory to fact continues.

To be honest, I'm feeling a bit low about all this current wave and the restrictions we are about to enter into, which will no doubt get worse. I think they are going to let Xmas pass, then shut us down again.

I agree with the vaccine etc, not an anti vaxxer or anything like that, but I don't see an end to this at all. We are one of the most vaccinated countries I the world, yet it's not helping. I'd say it's safe to say we are heading for severe lockdown again come 2022.

We were told once vaccinated it would all change, we'd be back to normal. But with only 7% of adults not vaccinated, we still aren't back to normal. So when will we ever be back to normal? There's not much more we can do at this stage.

I'll take a booster without question, but even if all 93% of those vaccinated take one, we won't go back to what it was like pre-covid. I think covid is going to be a topic of conversation and be in the media for many years to come, and it's depressing.

Off to the conspiracy forum with ye

We are living through an extraordinary period of time. I don't understand the world we live in today in so many ways. what the hell will it be like in 20 or 30 years.

Worse.

Restrictions due to the climate crisis.

I'm no expert but wasn't smallpox a much more deadly disease than covid and wasn't the subsequent vaccine sterilising.