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Snooker Season 2021/22

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Hah, i know how it is. I can vividly recall shots and entire matches from 30 years ago but ask me about last week and I'm already struggling!

    On the reffing, i do remember an incident from 2-3 seasons back when Ronnie had snookered himself and his old pal, Terry Camilleri was in charge. As Ronnie is feathering the cue ball, nothing indicated, Terry, almost in half panic, rushes in saying, "Ronnie, Ronnie...you must nominate a colour." To which an irked Ronnie replies, cool the jets bro, I was only sizing up the shot. But i think that did highlight the modern mentality, the ref willing to help the player, not stand idly by and wait for him to foul up. And poor Terry! Saw an opportunity to possibly get in Ronnies good books and ended up merely irritating him more!



  • Posts: 7,792 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    😃 That's a good one!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Aaron having a good scrap with the sheriff here, big frame there to tie it 2-2 at the interval. By far the best I've seen him cueing so far this season so a little bit of encouragement there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Just didn't happen after the interval, Hamilton wins 5-2. Didn't miss a whole lot, frames were tight enough.

    That's it now until uk champs end of next month and then nothing after that until shoot out at the end of January. Not a great situation to be in really. Unless there's some championship league or something they might chuck in there somewhere, not sure on that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,599 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Hedry also lost 5-2. Its not happening for either of them this seasons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Aaron had an interesting exchange with Hamilton at the end of the match. He said he'd been very happy with his safety but hadn't brought his "scoring boots" with him and other days he'd scored well but hadn't played good safety. Putting it all together was the hard part. He also mentioned a couple of big pots he missed, felt he'd taken too much time thinking about them, instead of just getting down and potting them like just another shot. Just overthinking stuff in general.

    For his part, Hamilton was very gracious and encouraging, told Aaron he'd been unlucky, could easily have been 3-1 or 4-2 up, to stick with it and all the best for the future. Smashing fella is the sheriff!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Ah that's so frustrating, Ken 2 pots away from sowing up frame and match, one careless positional shot and suddenly wakelins clearing up to force the decider. Ken kick himself hard should he lose this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Well done ken, controlled last frame though helped by wakelin missing an absolute sitter over the pocket! Plays old mucker Matt Stevens tomorrow for a place in the final stages. Good opportunity to amass some badly needed ranking points.

    Nice to see Ding finally back, albeit losing a tight match to Mark Davis.

    Cao Yupeng taking on Murphy could be an interesting tussle this afternoon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Murphy scrapes home with the aid of a flukey snooker. Cao had his chances, especially early on and also in the last.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,559 ✭✭✭refusetolose


    whats the deal with aaron hill? if he fails to make the cut this year he's off the tour right?

    what happens then ,is it really hard for him to get back on the tour or what?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Yeah, if he doesn't qualify via top 64 or the one year list, or by reaching the crucible, he's off the main tour. In that eventuality, he'd be heading for Q School for one of the 12 available cards there and, failing that, he'd look to the secondary Q Tour which is being inaugurated this season. Basically trying to get back on tour asap with more experience to count on than this time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Not a match that will live long in the memory, but Ken gets the job done 5-3 against Stevens who, to be fair, was pretty awful today. Will face Sam Craigie in last 32 when final stages commence in the new year. Good chance to go deep here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭Genghis


    Thought Ken looked good today, but yes Stevens was dreadful. Great to see Ken qualify, hopefully earns a few ranking points.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Ronnie getting blitzed by Hossein Vafaei 4-0. Thought he looked a little bit off from the start, kind of bored, but take nothing away from Hossein. 141 total clearance to finish, ast under 18 seconds, been fabulous to watch. Never know with ron, of course, could still take off, but long way back from here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Could hear Stevens at the end moaning about the cue ball, saying he couldn't control it through the match. Think he did actually have it replaced after the first frame. Ken did actually agree with him and did struggle himself a bit, overrunning on quite a few occasions. Still, same for both players at the end of the day, Ken handled it better and was the better player.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭Genghis


    O'Sullivan whitewashed 5 0. Not at the races at all, Vafaei impressive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    And Hossein finishes it, no fuss. Ronnie gave up in the end. Whitewashed in a bit over an hour. Check the records for the last time that happened!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,854 ✭✭✭zuutroy


    Watched a bit of it. He's a hard man to like at times. Why drive all that way to not even try?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,940 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    That's mad I can't think of the last time Ronnie was whitewashed, if ever.

    Fair play to Hossein not many players have ever done what he did. And Ronnie even resorting to the 'Quinten Hann Break' at one stage!


    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users Posts: 538 ✭✭✭B2021M


    Can't be many sports where such a top 'star' behaves like this (not infrequently)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Higgins did him 5-0 in 2017 Scottish Open, was the last time it happened. Ronnie definitely in weird mode last night, way he kept looking at his cue and animatedly chatting to person sitting directly behind him (minder/driver presumably) but for all that Vafaei was still excellent. Have seen Ronnie doing that countless times at this stage and still winning. Hossein still had to go and pot them and just didnt miss much. Shouldn't be down at No.60 where he is, top 16 player if he works out how to cope on the tv tables.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    i don’t think I’ve ever watched a snooker match involving Ronnie from early in his career where I’ve wanted him to actually win... he’s really not a very likable player... some people see him as some sort of ‘rock not roll’ knight in white satin and laud the attitude but that’s really just petulance...



  • Registered Users Posts: 538 ✭✭✭B2021M


    Yeah. He clearly didn't fancy the trip to Berlin in January. Having said that he will probably show up in the Eurosport studio!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,599 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Isn't breaking off like that seen as disrespectful in snooker? I thought you could even be sanctioned for doing it.

    I feel like Strumms said about Ronnie. I always support the other guy but if Ronnie wins then i can still watch him in the next round and support the other guy again. Great player (most of the time) not a good guy though. And they should be treated as separate things because they are separate things. I thin that if he weren't an excellent snooker player, he would be brushed aside by the sport as a bad egg and a disruptive influence. But instead they laud his bad behaviour as individuality and personality.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,854 ✭✭✭zuutroy


    I still want him to win, mostly because I've been a fan since I was a teenager when he was just breaking through, and I suppose you want to see your 'support' over such a long time rewarded with him breaking the records. I think he's still all over the place mentally and most of the time the result is not a very nice person. Still though, when he's playing well there's no one close in terms of the enjoyment of watching him do what he does. Frame 31 and 32 against Selby in 2019 is the type of stuff that I keep watching for.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    More qualifiers beginning this morning, back to Cannock for European masters. Ronnie can take a break as his tie v Nigel Bond is held over to the main arena in the new year. Ken plays Jak Jones tonight and Aaron up against Zhao Xintong tomorrow morning, interesting one that.

    From next week the season will begin to take real shape I think: English Open, Champion of champions, UK Champs, Scots Open and World Grand Prix all within 6 weeks. Going to be hectic.



  • Posts: 7,792 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    I see MJW out of both European Masters and English Open after returning positive covid test. Sam Craigie also withdrew this morning and his intended replacement James Cahill had to also withdraw when his test was positive. Might be seeing a bit more of this over next few weeks i fear. Though Craigie is listed as "injury" of some nature rather than covid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Good fight back from Aaron here to make it 2-3 from 0-3 and in danger of being blitzed in double quick time. Hadn't had cue ball on a string as he'd wish, but potting and playing well otherwise.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Zhao blows big chance for the match and we have a decider. No more than Aaron deserves really.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Get in there! Been a long time coming but Aaron finally gets another victory on tour, first of season outside of league. Being honest,Zhao rather typically threw it away but not quibbling. Great character shown from Aaron today, deserves that bit of luck. Yan Bingtao next up in English Open next week. Hopefully bring a bit of new found confidence to that, big ask but should be no pressure anyway.

    Good win for Fergal this morning too, good day all round.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,220 ✭✭✭waynescales1


    Aaron would want to get his act together pretty soon. As far as I can see, he's won 2 ranking points matches since beating O'Sullivan last year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Since Ronnie has beat Matt Stevens, Billy Joe Castle, Fergal, Brandon Sergeant, Scott Donaldson and now Zhao. All in ranked events so 6 to be exact, going to need at least as many more in coming months. That goes without saying!



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,220 ✭✭✭waynescales1


    Do you get ranking points for winning a qualifier? I was excluding Championship League and qualifiers. The last year or so has been fairly disappointing for him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,599 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    I turned on Aaron's decider when Joe_Public said it was going to the last frame. They were both terrible in that final frame. Granted it was a decider so both players were under pressure and I was delighted he won, but the standard was really low from both zhao laid some lovely safety and snookers but missed some poor pots to win the game. Everyone needs a bit of luck from time to time but he needs to be better than today's performance to get into the top 64 by the end of the season.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    You get ranking points for winning qualifiers. Every match Aaron plays is to earn money and points to try and stay on tour. I was encouraged how he was cueing v Anthony Hamilton last week and he showed a bit today too, albeit yes, with some help from opponent. A lot of facets of his game are there, but it's putting them all together when needed is the challenge and, being critical, his cue ball control needs to be a lot more precise. From there, most of the problems accrue.

    But let's be real here. Aaron's still just 19, i know he has the talent but it will take a while to develop. I compare him to Jackson Page who was a couple of years ahead as a junior and is starting to put a few good eyecatching results together now after a couple of tough initial years on tour. So I'm not too surprised or disheartened by the way things are going so far and I hope Aaron isn't either. Even if he doesn't make the cut this season, a year or even two on the lower circuit mightnt be the worst thing for him, he'll come back an older and better player. I sincerely hope it doesn't come to that, but if it happens, it's just a setback, not a disaster. Still 7/8 tournaments left so will just root for him all the way.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,220 ✭✭✭waynescales1


    Are the English Open qualifiers from Monday on anywhere to watch I wonder?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,097 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    So Hendry on today at 2.30. Cant be any worse than last time right?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Oh to be on WWTBAM, sitting on quarter of a mill, and the £250,000 question is which of these won the world championship first:

    A: The Rocket

    B: The Wizard of Wishaw

    C: The Ace in the Pack

    D: The Jester from Leicester



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,220 ✭✭✭waynescales1


    Took me three goes just to figure out WWTBAM! Haha.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Sorry! It's just so much typing when using my phone with its horribly tiny keypad. Anyway, chap rather sensibly took the cash, didn't have a scooby.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,220 ✭✭✭waynescales1


    Yeah if you don’t follow snooker you wouldn’t have a hope.


    I’d have done what yer man on half a mil did. Phone a friend and say I don’t need your help I’m about to win a million.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,489 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    Gawd I had to look up The Ace in The Pack, no wonder though, hardly catchy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Dangerous enough question in that anyone with a very basic bit snooker knowledge would know "Rocket" Ronnie and might be tempted to take the risk and blow it. For half a mill, would take some stones though!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,097 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Whats the story with the Irish Masters in Goffs in March? Looks all standing?!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    First event of the inaugural Q Tour getting underway today in Brighton. Apart from Ronan Whyte and the indefatigable Dessie Sheehan, 72 years young, there's not a lot of Irish involvement. Thought Ross Bulman would be a contender but he's not entered for some reason.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,599 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Indefatigable is a great word. Needed to Google it but delighted by it.

    Will it be televised on Eurosport or anything? I never feel like I know the names of the players coming through q school*. Would be great to be able to keep an eye on it.

    *assuming this is q school and not a snooker tournament for Qanon enthusiasts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Dessie is a legend, just loves the game and the buzz of competing. Long may he last!

    Don't see any stream for this yet, but it's Q Tour as distinct from Q School which is held at the end of the season. It's 4 events (will be a lot more from next season) and a tour card for top ranked at the end with a play off for a second card. Plenty of names in it like James Cahill, Michael Georgiou, Michael White etc who will be among the favourites.

    Live updates can be got here for anyone interested:

    http://www.snooker.org/res/index.asp?template=21&event=1218



  • Posts: 7,792 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Q Tour 😂



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