Cycle infrastructure planned for south Dublin

So SDCC create a traffic jamming roundabout to reduce car journeys. To quote Dowee: "As a resident of Knocklyon I can assure you that the cause of traffic jams in the area is due to huge amount of wholely unncessary journeys taken by people". How do you know that the journeys are "wholely unnecessary"? This smacks of arrogance, and reminds me of the attitude of people who are supposed to be public servants, but who want to dictate to us all the time. If you want to curb car journeys, then carbon taxes, congestion charging, parking regulations/charging are ample instruments to hand.

Creating congestion may deter the amount of car usage, but is also worsens CO2 emissions per km travelled. Only if the former outweighs the latter is there an overall reduction in emissions. Furthermore traffic congestion has a cost in terms of wasted time. People are not generally driving cars for fun, in which case time costs might not matter.

Finally anyone who is so keen to promote cycling (which I support), would do better to draw attention to the SDCC's atrocious performance on Grange road, which was the reason I got involved in this discussion in the first place.

The roundabout where the fatality occurred has been re-ordered with a wide single lane for cars and a lane protected by soft bollards with crossing for peds and cyclists a little bit before and after the roundabout. It's good enough, and most, barring the occasional angry baldy driving a German car, most respect it.

As better described above by ARX, I should have said "unnecessary journeys by car", as opposed to unnecessary in general. A specific example might help to explain what I mean. My kids often partake in sports in the evening in St Colmcilles Secondary school, right beside the offending roundabout. I live about 1.5km - 2km from it. I cycle or walk there with them. I'm in the massive minority of parents that do that with their kids, most drive. I also live further away from the school than most in the groups my kids are in.

Every time we are there it is absolute mayhem getting out of the carpark (for the people in cars that is, we breeze past on our bikes however), because there are far too many cars in it. No doubt some of the parents had to drive (young babies, disabilities etc) but plenty of them did not have to drive, they could walk or cycle. If all of those that can walk and cycle, do so, it lessens congestion for all, especially those who have no other choice. My views on this subject have nothing to do with arrogance, they are based on seeing the broader picture. Ensuring our roads are designed to efficiently move the increasing numbers of cars on them is not THE solution to traffic congestion, there are many more factors to it, one of which is reducing the number of cars on the road in the first place.

Blackrock changes seem to be popular.

@Rechuchote do you have a link - can't see it on the website?

Whoever runs that Twitter account appears to be an astonishingly aggressive person.

It's really remarkable how the same hysterical claims are made every time "a parking space" (real or informally established by everyone turning a blind eye) is lost.

Whose document is this and what is the context?

Option 6 comes out top in the assessment, but I'd imagine it would take a lot longer to implement and open a whole new can of worms by going through the cemetery?

Meantime the noble Borough of Royal Kingstown has published a another scheme, this time for Upper Glenageary Road.

Its a segregated two-way scheme, but keeps two way vehicular traffic going at the same time, so its unlikely to ruffle too many feathers unless someone complains about restricted access.

I note they are persisting with delivery under Section 38, which seems mental to me, considering there remains such a huge question mark over its limits and limitations, but there you go.

The original option won't fly locally and the Councillors simply won't impose it. Whatever happens, it wont be that.

whatever about the details, I'm glad to see them settling on 2-way cyclelanes as the preferred design; I personally think they're preferable for several reasons, but mainly as they're more pleasant to cycle on.

They are, but the only problem is when you're on the other side of a busy road to them. They are also good in being wide enough for emergency vehicles to bypass traffic.