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Kyle Rittenhouse found not guilty

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I wouldn't blame people for being brainwashed in this case, the way the media were acting. Sites like politifact also got their 'facts' wrong about the case, social media sites then used the authority of politifact to censor social media about the case.

    Big tech and the DNC conspiring to lie to the world. They keep lapping it up, because they're stuck in their bubbles. I saw some research recently that shocked me. It was to do with people entrenched in some wrong belief. If they really believe this, that's all they know; then showing them contradictory evidence only pushes them further into this lie! It does nothing to correct the record in their brains. I was quite saddened when I read that.


    Edit: just remembered it was the worldview backfire effect



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,032 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    He actually did say he respected the juries verdict. Stop lying when there is transcripts and video of what he said. I’m not defending them, I’m using the video that is widely available.



  • Registered Users Posts: 160 ✭✭ChickenDish


    About as turned on as you get by your idol who kills innocents.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Lol.

    Good comeback. Seriously though, race baiting is a bad look.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,554 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure




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  • Registered Users Posts: 160 ✭✭ChickenDish


    I strike a nerve, don't you like people knowing your a fan boy for a murderer.



  • Registered Users Posts: 24,192 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    They won't do that, as its a Second Amendment issue. Quite apart from the sacred cow that it is itself, far too much money is made from the private arms industry for that.



  • Registered Users Posts: 153 ✭✭ATR72


    Must be talking about someone else. Kyle didn't kill any innocent people. Just a pedo and a domestic abuser who tried to kill him.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,469 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    If training or lack thereof was the issue why did you bring age into it?

    Is a militarily untrained 25 year old somehow less dangerous than an untrained 17 year old?

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users Posts: 153 ✭✭ATR72


    In his statement he said "myself included". So you are the only one lying here.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 153 ✭✭ATR72


    Those fact checking websites are often partisan and shouldn't be trusted.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    he's roaming the streets in a volatile situation with a full-on assault rifle.

    what could possibly go wrong?

    whatever about the case of being not guilty under the law even a 17 year old can be classified as a moron in this situation

    he supposedly went over to that town where he's not even from to "protect" a car dealership

    the police later turned him away from said dealership

    at that point he has no real reason for being there but decides to roam about in a volatile crowd situation with a fooking assault rifle anyways.

    again, what could possibly go wrong?

    if he had not been there, nobody would have been shot.

    he is the only one who shot and killed (two) people on that night.




  • Registered Users Posts: 153 ✭✭ATR72


    And more misinformation. He lived 20 mins from Kenosha. He worked in Kenosha and his father lived there. Most of the idiots rioting that night actually lived further away. Hubert was from Madison.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    he didn't live there and had to travel over there specifically - that's correct and not misinformation

    the fact that he father lived there or that he had previously worked there doesn't change that

    so just ignore the actual main point about roaming around with an assault rifle like a muppet in the situation that a black guy had just been paralysed by being shot by police 🤣🤣🤣

    now that is just bullsh1t




  • Registered Users Posts: 8,554 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    hey, that's not true. I read it on a ... ... fact checking site



  • Registered Users Posts: 160 ✭✭ChickenDish


    That doesn't fit in with the fan boys narrative, they will continue to ignore the fact a nut job was roaming the streets with an assault rifle looking to "protect" some random piece of land that he had no attachment too. Mummy and daddy must be so proud. Why drop your son to the cinema when you can drop him off at the nearest riot to bring justice to them pesky black people.



  • Registered Users Posts: 153 ✭✭ATR72


    Jacob Blake had a knife and just assaulted his ex-girlfriend. Kyle had as much right to be there as any of the rioters who were destroying property.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    right. walking around with an an assault rifle in that crowd is not going to cause any trouble at all.

    you make as much sense as the man in the moon.

    deserves a third posting of this picture just for you

    not sure what your agenda is but it's actually beyond stupid trying to compare a guy brandishing an assault rifle in that crowd situation to someone with a a knife on them (in terms of likely to kick things off in terms of incitement)




  • Registered Users Posts: 31,721 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Such an absolutely insane verdict.

    A guy arms himself with an assault rifle that isn't his, travels out of his way to a location where active conflict is occurring, and inserts himself into said conflict, before using his assault rifle to kill people. He created the situation with his armed presence and antagonistic conflict driven motivations. It's murder.



  • Registered Users Posts: 24,192 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    If public disorder breaks out in Dublin, or even in London, or Berlin, or pretty much most of the Cities in the World that aren't in conflict zones, people may get hurt.

    They could get hurt by crowd crush, or by punches being thrown, by rocks and bottles being thrown or indeed by Police intervention, gas, batons, rubber bullets etc. They might even get stabbed or slashed if people have brought household knives, Stanley blades, that sort of thing. Those are the typical hazards people caught up in public disorder may face.

    In many parts of the United States, ordinary people are free to conspicuously carry firearms, mostly pistols but often assault rifles and they are free to bring them to such public disorder. We saw last year in Michigan that armed individuals were able to rock up and hang around the Statehouse, while making threats against the Governor, all perfectly legal.

    These laws are outdated. They are grossly outdated. Perversely outdated. Their absence in the rest of the World says so. They belong in the 18th century where they came from, if they even belonged then. The US is backward and unsophisticated in this regard.

    Mass shootings in Hungerford and Dunblane in Britain. One in Tasmania z Australia. A quite recent one in Christchurch, New Zealand and as recent as 2020 in Nova Scotia, Canada. What have they got in Common? The response of their democratically elected Parliaments was to introduce extreme restrictions, nay bans, on the type of guns that go beyond farming and sporting needs. Simple as. The obvious step. Almost unanimous support, backed by the people. Outcome? Mass shootings go away.

    What is it about the United States? Why do its people not, in sufficient numbers, wish to take away the weapons that kill their families, their kids, their colleagues, their worshippers, their officials and cops and politicians?

    If you accept the definition of a mass shooting as the injury or death, by firearm, of four or more people, in roughly the same time and place, then at least one of those happens in the U.S......every......single.....day.

    The US has 4% of the World population. 40% of the gun related homicides. Thats a barely credible fact. Its insane.

    Quite apart from all the school kids killed every year, a guy in 2017 goes to Las Vegas, barricades himself in a 32nd floor hotel room with 24 guns (!!!!!!) and fires over 1,000 rounds, killing 60 and wounding 420.

    What did that do for gun ownership? It banned bump-stock devices that turn semi-auto rifles into full-auto. Nothing else. Mass shooters now have to cock their guns manually. But of course they do not, because so many bump stocks and auto guns are already in circulation, by the millions.

    A federal Bill to limit magazines to ten rounds or less is still being tossed around Congress four years later. How long did it take New Zealand to ban larger calibre long guns? One fúcking day.

    The US is a joke. Its gun laws are a joke. Its politicians' attitudes to guns are a joke. The opinion of enough of the population on guns, enough to hold the rest to ransom, is a joke.

    A backward, outdated, horrifying, perverted joke.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 21,685 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    You do realise this is is a discussion board and not a courtroom?



  • Registered Users Posts: 21,685 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    You seriously asking if there is no difference between children and adults? Why do you think 25 year olds can vote but 17 year olds cant?

    Why can 25 year olds legally drink, but 17 year olds can't?



  • Registered Users Posts: 153 ✭✭ATR72


    The US is the most powerful country in the world. Ireland is nothing but a small country floating beside the UK with an overinflated opinion of itself. Your thesis would be more at home in a left-wing think tank magazine.



  • Registered Users Posts: 153 ✭✭ATR72


    Jury says no. You obviously watched a different trial.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,469 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    It’s simply part of the culture war. It seems like such a binary issue that the facts get overlooked depending on perspective.

    If you buy into the BLM can do no wrong narrative then Rittenhouse is a racist white supremacist who set out to murder.


    If you believe the verdict was correct you are intrinsically racist and support the murder of peaceful anti racism protestors.


    This isn’t the hill progressives should choose to die on because the facts don’t support their position.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    If public disorder breaks out in Dublin, or even in London, or Berlin, or pretty much most of the Cities in the World that aren't in conflict zones, people may get hurt.


    They could get hurt by crowd crush, or by punches being thrown, by rocks and bottles being thrown or indeed by Police intervention, gas, batons, rubber bullets etc. They might even get stabbed or slashed if people have brought household knives, Stanley blades, that sort of thing. Those are the typical hazards people caught up in public disorder may face.

    That's your response to that post mentioning three cities, not just Dublin, then going on to say "or pretty much most of the cities in the world that aren't in conflict zones" and yet you somehow try to base your argument on Ireland alone.

    That's simply a pathetic effort on your part.

    Pathetic



  • Registered Users Posts: 153 ✭✭ATR72


    Irish people on Boards are pathetic. Well folks on the left like yourself. Constantly moaning about America being an awful place.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,917 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    So a white guy marches into Kenosha from Illinois with an automatic weapon and kills two people and paralyses others. Ah sure he's sorry now about it and wants to get on with his life. The judge says ok, I buy that.

    If that was a black guy, it is likely he would be heading to death row now.

    America is screwed.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    your level of argumentation and response has been shown up to be that of a small child

    I'm not "on the left"

    I just classify a 17 year old going around for no good reason with a hugely visible and inciteful assault rifle in a volatile crowd in the aftermath of the police shooting which ended up paralysing a guy (black or white doesn't matter to me) to be a complete gobsh1te and it's hardly surprising that things went badly from there

    I couldn't be bothered trying to figure out what your warped agenda is because it's not going to make any rational sense anyway.




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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,413 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    If you have a personally held opinion that 17-year-olds should not be permitted to have an AR-15 in public, fair enough. But 'disagreeing with the use of the exemption to dismiss the charge' will require some explanation.

    In most Western societies, something is legal unless there is an active prohibition against it in statute. Generally speaking, since there are so many laws revolving around firearms in the US, gun owners will usually look up the relevant laws in detail to discover what is prohibited. For example, Rittenhouse testified on the stand that he believed that his carrying a pistol would be illegal. Which is quite correct, under Wisconsin law it would be, a search of the legislation would so disclose. The rifle in question, however, was another matter. Reading the law, he realised it was not illegal. This wasn't some dramatic unforseen decision bt the court, those of us who actually looked into the details had known the legality for months.

    If someone reading the law sees it says "no reason you can't carry the rifle", they carry the rifle, and are then charged for doing what the law specifically does not prohibit and thus is legal, why would you disagree with the concept "The law says it wasn't prohibited so the charge is being dismissed?"



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