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Wifi mesh systems

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,045 ✭✭✭✭L'prof


    Scratching my head. All seems ok now. Testing at 200Mbps up in the office every which way I try. Maybe it’s a contention issue during the day?

    Now I’m trying wired into the main Deco and it’s giving me 75Mbps whereas on the wifi right beside it I’m getting 310Mbps



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭alec76


    Not a fan of TP link products in general, but is there a chance that unit in the kitchen simply too far from the main unit and not capable establish solid link ?

    a bit of advice , connect Deco units with Ethernet cables , don’t use wireless backhaul.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,045 ✭✭✭✭L'prof


    Too far? Not going by the specs but it definitely could be walls and floors causing interference between the two. I just expected far better performance when looking at the stated 4500sqft coverage and the house is a fraction of that. I thought the 3 pack would be overkill


    Connecting via Ethernet would be the ideal but that would require a lot of messing around. I don’t think I’d be up for it myself. I have looked online for installers that would be able to retrofit Ethernet connections throughout the house


    A friend has the Eero and has nothing but praise for it. I’d be tempted to buy it if it’s reduced for Black Friday. Just worried I’d have similar issues



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭alec76


    What is your broadband package? Max speed available to you?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,045 ✭✭✭✭L'prof


    1Gbps. I don’t care about hitting that so much as consistency throughout to be honest



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭alec76


    Just send it back .

    Deco m5 only good for packages up to 100 mbps.

    4500 sqft not house coverage but more or less on open with no walls , obstructions etc

    unless you could do Ethernet link , don’t bother with it

    it. I’d be tempted to buy it if it’s reduced for Black Friday. Just worried I’d have similar issues

    Don’t you have 30 day free return ( postage paid ) with Amazon?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,045 ✭✭✭✭L'prof


    I’ve overshot that unfortunately. I’ve sent a query to the TP-Link team anyway. I’ll see what they come back with



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭alec76


    You should try move unit in the kitchen. Bring it halfway to the main unit .Might do the trick for you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,045 ✭✭✭✭L'prof


    I’ll give that a go so. I thought having it up in the office would be the best job so we could have a wired connection there



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,840 ✭✭✭keano25


    Having a problem with my M5s.. I have 150mb fibre broadband but when connected through the decos I'm getting 93-97 max over wi-fi and wired.


    My setup is eir fibre into house to white box on wall

    wire to eir fibre router

    wire to main deco from eir router then wire to switch

    Wires from switch to the two other decos.


    When I run speed test straight from the eir router I'm getting 150mb..


    Any ideas what's causing the drop?


    It's all new cat 6 wire and 1gb switch.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭alec76




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,045 ✭✭✭✭L'prof


    Sorry, I just got around to this now as I knew it would take me a while to compare everything. If Speedtest.net results are accurate then the main issue might lie with Vodafone. Huge difference between results there and Fast.com. Still a big drop off either way from Deco to Deco. I don't see a big difference below between having the Deco in the kitchen or the office so I think I'll move it back up so that there's a wired option up there. Those speeds seem grand for everything we'd need to be fair so there must be a lack of consistency or maybe contention issues from Vodafone



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭alec76


    Forget about fast.com it is not reliable source.

    As for the the Speedtest, make sure you pick the right server there: Blacknight Dublin, Airwire Galway good place to start.

    Post edited by alec76 on


  • Registered Users Posts: 380 ✭✭philboy


    Hi,

    I live in a 3 bed semi and I am looking to extend the WiFi signal all over the house and out to the back garden which is 30ft from the house.

    I tried power line adapters and ones with extenders 2 years ago but they kept giving problems and falling out of sync so I've given up on them.

    The house is not wired for Ethernet unfortunately so I cannot backhaul a mesh system.

    I have 1Gbps Siro broadband from Vodafone and am considering getting a 3 pack of the Eero Pros from Amazon. Would I be better off with th highly recommended Deco M5s.

    I have quite a few smart devices from Phillips Hue, Xiaomi robotic hoover, tado smart heating, Eufy security cameras and nest protects.

    Do you think this would be a good solution for my circumstances or is there something else you would recommend instead?

    Thanks

    Post edited by philboy on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭alec76


    I have 1Gbps Siro broadband from Vodafone and am considering getting a 3 pack of the Eero Pros from Amazon. Would I be better off with th highly recommended Deco M5s.

    Who’d recommend M5 for 1Gbps package?!

    Eero Pro might do a trick , but if Ethernet not an option then watch out for ORBI deals,

    RBK50/53s or RBK852/853( obvious choice apart from the price , then again ,some new smartphones cost more ), those two have the most powerful radios I’ve ever seen.


    ps.You could try Eero Pro for 30 days of course.

    Post edited by alec76 on


  • Registered Users Posts: 380 ✭✭philboy


    Thanks for your feedback Alec. I can't justify the price of the 853 but I think I will go for the RBK753.

    Do you know of any reason not to?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭alec76


    For £450 it is a steal, don’t use 3rd unit unless it is absolutely necessary though. Two of those might cover your place.

    ps. If you don’t have VOIP service from Vodafone you could get rid of Vodafone router, just plug Orbi directly to ONT ( not an option with Eero which doesn’t support PPPoE and VLAN 10)

    Post edited by alec76 on


  • Registered Users Posts: 380 ✭✭philboy


    Legend, thanks for your help!

    I'll order those today.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    I have this in, and I agree, I have it as a wired mesh with each of the three units feeding a 5 port switch, so lots of wired in devices and a wired mesh.


    However it's getting on now, I probably would not get one now, although they are on sale for black Friday. Having the ability to have a wired mesh would be a must for me though, so the new nest offering with no wired ports would be out the window, not all the devices i have are wireless.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭alec76




  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,021 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    That's the router though, not the satellite, you can use the router as a satellite and avail of the 2 ports (I think) but it only has 2 channels and isn't a smart speaker.

    I've just ordered a couple of routers to replace 2 of the satellites, I must pick up a cheap hub if I spot 1 on sale somewhere



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭alec76


    Sure thing , you should buy x2 or x3 Nest WIFI routers to create Mesh and don’t bother with the Nest WiFi Points.

    As for the smart speaker, Google Nest Audio or Nest Hub 2nd Gen on Sale atm.

    Post edited by alec76 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,294 ✭✭✭CantGetNoSleep


    I see the original Google Wifi for 139 on a Dutch site Black Friday deal. As someone who has only used the router supplied by the ISP, I'm struggling to see a reason not to click order?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭alec76


    Who is your ISP ?

    What is your broadband package, top speed?

    Do you have VOIP or TV bundle with the broadband?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,294 ✭✭✭CantGetNoSleep


    I'm living in France - I have the highest speed cable broadband, includes TV bundle. Don't have VOIP or any other landline



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭alec76


    “ the highest speed cable broadband “


    based on this answer I would recommend you leave it the way it is now.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,021 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Yeah, I know about the speakers, I've those dotted around the house as well, I've the Max connected to the TV as well, just sometimes it's handy to have 1 device instead of 2,for example I've 1 of the satellites in the upstairs hall and it doubles as a chime for the Nest Hello



  • Registered Users Posts: 759 ✭✭✭Moyglish


    Been thinking of getting a mesh system for a while - newbie to all of this though so hoping someone can help me out and advise.

    Currently using a 4G PAYG SIM in a Huawei B525 router. House is approximately 280sq metres and theres major WiFi blackspots all over the place.

    Would something like the Google Wifi - Mesh Wifi System, pack of 3 for €150 work with a 4g mobile broadband router?

    Would it be future proof if we were to upgrade to 5g in the bear future, or alternatively get a fibre broadband system installed, could this be used with all of those systems to improve WiFi coverage throughout the house?

    Does this just increase the area coverage or does it boost the speed also?

    How does this compare with the TP-Link Deco X20 AX1800 for £199 on Amazon, or indeed the Amazon eero mesh Wi-Fi system | 3-pack for £150ish?

    Which would be best? Need something easy to install and nothing too complicated.


    Thanks everyone! 



  • Registered Users Posts: 759 ✭✭✭Moyglish





  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,021 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    The mesh network will just connect everything together, your laptops, tablets, phones, etc. etc. 1 of the things it will also connect to is a router so you can get connected to the outside world, once the external router has a physical connection you can connect it to anything, either now or the future. It won't improve the speed to the outside world but it will mean that more things can connect to that connection at the top speed available.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,939 ✭✭✭Gusser09


    I have the BT Whole Home system (4 discs). I'd recommend it. Was look for something to cover a new extension which was covered by my original router.


    Speeds are good in the extension which is the furthest disc away from the router. Easy to setup and a nice app to go with it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    sorry Alec, i must be wrong so, i saw on the google store that the goolge mesh has ports, but the images i saw of the Nest Mesh, it had none,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭alec76


    Nest WIFI router has 2 ethernet ports. NEST WiFi Point has none.

    So , you should buy X2 or X3 Nest Routers instead of Nest Points and use extra Nest Routers as satellites for the Mesh .



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,021 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    I'd second this advice, use the satellite in places you won't need cables and a speaker would be handy, the router everywhere you'll need a cable. I've satellites in halls, bedrooms and kitchen, routers in office and another where I keep app my IoT bridges (heat, security, lights, etc), very handy being able to hide those and not have to have them next to the main router.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,767 ✭✭✭Glebee


    Looking to upgrade myself at the moment. Im not really upto date with this mesh systems. I have an Eircom router in one corner of my house upstairs(for some reason). Im getting wifi speeds of appx 45mbps on 2.4ghz and 85mbps on 5ghz channels. Using wall sockets currenly around the house to spread the wifi and connect stuff via ethernet and its working away fine. Can only get the 5ghz channel when im beside the router to not benefitting really from it. If I was to upgrade to mesh would I be able to connect to the 5ghz channel all over the house?? Looking at TP Link Deco S4 system or something in that price range or lower...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 592 ✭✭✭jethrothe2nd



    I was in much the same position - Eir router, and very similar speeds. I've recently put in a Deco M4 system (just one downstairs and one upstairs and I am getting on average 76 mpbp on 5ghz all over the house now. Was hoping I might get a bit faster than that but even still it is a vast improvement on what I was getting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,767 ✭✭✭Glebee


    Have you anything connected directly via ethernet to the downstairs unit? Just wondering what sort of speeds you might expect from that..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 592 ✭✭✭jethrothe2nd


    Only thing I have connected to the main unit directly is a Philips Hue Hub, so I can't really tell from that. I'll give my laptop a bash later and see



  • Registered Users Posts: 193 ✭✭Doug Stamper


    I recently set up the Deco P9 (3 pack) system at home following advice from this thread (concrete floors, block walls etc) and it is working great.

    I have one dead spot that is the furthest point from any node/unit. As I can't get a single P9, would anyone be able to recommend the next best thing? Would the M5 single be suitable or would the M3W be sufficient?

    I've had TP Link repeaters and power line AV600 extenders before the P9 that didn't do the job.

    Thanks.



  • Registered Users Posts: 151 ✭✭Sue de Nimes


    My wife and I have just bought a new home that has FTTH. We have ordered the 1Gbps product with Pure Telecom.

    I had hoped to get ethernet wired into some of the rooms while I had flooring up but can't get someone to do it. The house was built about 15 years ago so doesn't have really thick internal walls. I do however want to get as high a speed over wifi to each room in the house. I also want this to be as stable as possible.

    Pure Telecom supply a Fritz!box 7530 router that can form a mesh network with other Fritz! products. Anyone got any experience of using this and the sort of speeds and stability they get around the house with it?

    The idea of a WIFI 6E mesh seems like the ideal but the reality of obtaining kit for this seems to place it a couple of years away. I keep thinking about getting some sort of mesh setup that is "good enough" at the moment and maybe set something up with 6E in a couple of years. Anyone got any recommendations for a mesh setup that will work with a PPPoE connection directly so I can just pop the Fritz! router in a drawer? I'd like to avoid spending more than €300 in total for this.

    I don't just want something with solid speeds but something that can handle large numbers of devices connected to it without falling over. We have a load of smart devices around the home as well. I need something as well that works without any sort of wired backhaul in the house.

    I can pick up a second Fritz! 7530 for just €58 from CEX which seems like a very cheap way of getting things setup. How good or bad is that likely to perform?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,555 ✭✭✭wexfordman2


    If its a bungalow or dormer ceiling mounted access points would be the way to go for providing solid WiFi, and easy enough to physically install



  • Registered Users Posts: 151 ✭✭Sue de Nimes


    Unfortunately, I am tech savvy but completely inept at any sort of DIY. Fitting anything to ceilings is going to be beyond me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,736 ✭✭✭MoodeRator




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,555 ✭✭✭wexfordman2


    It's just 4 screws and you couod practice on a bit of plywood



  • Registered Users Posts: 151 ✭✭Sue de Nimes


    Still keen on any recommendations on Mesh systems for my needs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,045 ✭✭✭✭L'prof


    I bought the Eero pro system when it was on offer last from Amazon. Highly recommended. I had previously had the Deco M5s but I returned them as I was having isssues



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel


    Hi, looking for some advice if possible.

    Have a Deco P9 x 3 wifi mesh, this is extended with E3 and one of the wall plugs. This is to provide full coverage over house as I have smart lighting/heating etc.

    System works well but I am a person who likes and upgrade so wondering what would be best to replace. I need to have a 2.4Ghz wifi to connect to smart plugs etc which won't support 5Ghz. Also the solar PV system seems to have some issues with authorisation so I leave a guest network open so it can connect to it. Then restrict what people can do if they connect to the open network. Also set up alert etc. The Solar PV system is due a firmware upgrade so this should* be resolved in the future.

    I would like to move to wifi6 but I don't think any of the system will also support 2.4Ghz?

    Any decent system available? google wifi a good job if I buy 6 units?

    Thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭alec76


    Purely depends what WiFi speeds you are looking for. More mesh units connected wireless to each other means slower speeds to the clients. You probably might stop buying retail garbage and get 2 professional WiFi APs ( Aruba or Ubiquity) connected to router via Ethernet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel


    I wouldn't call it garbage. Plus I am living in one of the many black holes in Ireland, mobile BB is the best I can get so investing in professional kit seems a bit over the top. Thanks for advice


    I had a look for the Aruba stuff, looks interesting, who sells it in Ireland? only found one device via HP and I am not a fan of HP



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,555 ✭✭✭wexfordman2


    Putting in some wired ap's will make your home network stable and reliable irrespective of what your ISP is. If you are looking for wifi6, then the latest ubiquiti aps would be worth looking at as well.


    Just keep in mind, fibre will be on the way, no matter how rural you are, so a robust local network is a good investment



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