Will there be another lockdown?

That's what NPHET will kick and scream for. Question I ask of them is what is going to stop Ireland having exactly the same problem this time next year?

I wouldn't blame them; they are already getting an earful from everyone.

I took a vaccine to shut up the government and all the nannies so I could go around my business, there's not a chance I am going into another lock down.

To be fair to the government that's the ideal scenario for them. If something is unpleasant and necessary to avert a crisis, a government would be foolish to do it proactively to avert the crisis. The public don't say 'God, the government was forward looking to avert the crisis'. Instead they say ' the government are such eegits that they did that unpleasant thing AND THERE WAS NO NEED BECAUSETHE CRISIS NEVER EVEN HAPENED!'

So the best thing for government is to wait for the situation to get very bad and the public will ask for the restrictions. That way the government can appear a bit late, but doing the right thing.

If people were rational actors and voted sensible, governments could be far more proactive. Bit in reality we don't vote to reward sensible governance.

Hopefully. I have two relatives needing MRIs to prove suspected cancer following a CT at the moment, both of whom are waiting more than six weeks for their MRIs in UHL. The consultant and MRI dept have both blamed covid for these delays.

We do know, and so do the powers that be. But theyre not looking there because they dont want to.

The ECDC has deemed schools as high risk environment but not in Ireland apparently, no, again completely different here. How? Why stop testing and tracing of close contacts? Because they know but dont want to look and dont want to admit, hear no evil, see no evil and repeat the mantra "schools not a problem, schools not a problem"

In the first two weeks of November a minimum of 3,726 children have tested positive.

We know where people are catching COVID but dont want to admit.

The approach at the moment is akin to the police refusing to take and investigate any more reports of crime in the country and declaring the country 100% crime free!!

And Fakebook and WhatsSh1t too where everyone has a "source in the HSE" - That source is of course unnamed.

Well, I've a source in the HSE (local cleaner in a public nursing home who is employed by the hse) and she says there will be no lockdown.

But because my source is not saying Armageddon will happen and because I say that its a cleaner in a nursing home, no one is taking me seriously. 😒

That is the level of utter stupidity that is out there.

Schools won't close. With a positive outlook going forward I predict that there won't be any further restrictions either. I think it probable we will also get out for a pint next month with the office lads.

We simply can't lockdown with a successful vaccine rollout having happened.

Easy for you to say.

You obviously work form home with a cushy number.

Some of us simply can't stay at home with kids and work.

Sure what do you care.

I had a scan in affidea clinic 2 weeks ago.

honestly wouldnt rely on the hse to provide that anytime. it will be another excuse next time.

Yeah he's dead right. You see it on this thread too. The ones who are emost opposed to lockdoen are also the ones making wild predictions about lockdowns or 'lockdown in all but name'.

They bang on about how the government will sneak it in the back door, make pronouncements about deciphering secret messages from nphet And government announcements, they announce dates for when schools will shut, lockdowns will happen and anti-pub conspiracies and so on. And then they complain about how the media is pushing for lockdown when they've just spent the evening making up and discussing details of lockdowns that the government hasn't even said they're doing.

If we stuck to the facts then there would be far less talk of lockdowns and maybe we could discuss the situation as it actually is rather than wading through the worst fears of the people who oppose restrictions in any case.

So that's the teachers, the vintners, diageo and the liberal who've all been given the heads up.......

You think whoever is telling them would stop because none of them can keep a secret.....

Did you though?

That would basically be admitting that schools aren't safe though, and they are at pains to tell us they are.

Everyone has there own meaning to the word 'lockdown'

Pubs closed and no mass gatherings ie stadiums/gigs would be my meaning of a lockdown and would be both frustrating and sad. I'd be out of work in that instance

(Don't worry my owl stalker be here in a minute arguing)

March 2020 was a different beast though, I was in the tourism industry at that point and it was obvious something was coming, we knew that from Valentine's Day when the Americans started cancelling. The announcement was rapid, but we knew it would happen, remember all the talk at the time about making it through Paddy's Day.

Just because we knew something was coming I still called anyone who sent me the army on the streets WhatsApp a gobshite, similarly anyone who reads the liberal or believes lockdown is inevitable is gullible at best.

Yes, I'm sure there's situations where info leaks (usually when varadkar has it) but when 2 of the 4 rumours contradict each other, I'll still call bullshit.