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Andrew McGinley being pulled from Late late show

  • 24-11-2021 4:33pm
    #1
    Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I was reading this and was actually in disbelief, how did RTE manage to have this chap pulled over a letter " signed by 3 people" as to his appearance causing upset.


    I am going to complain to RTE, as someone who works in the mental health area I find it mad that patients who are at risk dont have to have some form of spousal input when it comes to kids.

    Yet we have to look at other people in other situations ( Vicky Phelan) and this goes on the air.


    Madness.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,052 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Has to be more to this story. Seems very odd. Can understand why he is very upset though.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,010 ✭✭✭Allinall




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,832 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    It would be very unlike Tubridy and RTE not to have something on the LLS because it is TOO miserable....

    ....there would be no Late Late show if that was the case....

    Its a case of the more miserable the better (e.g Barry McGuigan story, Vicky Phelan etc)

    Guaranteed weekly misery slot(s)....

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,745 ✭✭✭StupidLikeAFox


    Id say rte legal we're playing it super safe

    Tubridy is addicted to misery and for him every silver lining usually has a cloud.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Just shocking even if her family objected.


    Being in this game, not enough is done to highlight these issues.


    Plus, man is trying to find reason to go one.

    I find other things not agreeable, don't like watching a woman dying of cancer to remind me of being sick, but fair play to her for spending her last few weeks on TV.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,624 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    Good.

    every sympathy to the man he must be going through hell, but less misery is needed.

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,533 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    If they'd find it too painful to watch, they could always... not watch it

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,947 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    That letter from her family (if this is the case) needs to be fully published so we can see what the reasons were





  • He was going on the show to talk about his charities. He's hardly going to be gossiping about his wife's mental health.

    Stupid decision.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 288 ✭✭Will_I_Amnt


    I'd imagine the motivation for the objections by Deirdre Morley's relatives was due to their fear of her name being dragged thru the mud further - They want the whole thing out of the public eye altogether. You would feel some sympathy for them, they are victims too. But this shouldn't have been and should never be the criteria used for denying the children's father a voice.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,611 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Wifes family shouldn't be heeded after what she did their concern is too late.


    His charity work shouldnt be stopped.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,947 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    can yee imagine the outrage if the father had been the culprit and not the mother



  • Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The changing of the law changing the verdict, guilty but insane, to not guilty by reason of insanity has had unintended consequences



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,718 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Its a horrific story whatever side you approach it from. Hard to imagine many more difficult circumstances to have to deal with.

    I don't really blame RTÉ and/or McGinley himself agreeing to pull it. No need to add insult to injury. There'll be other opportunities.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,685 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    I guessed that the minute I heard someone complained.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 735 ✭✭✭milehip


    Go way outta that with your logic,no takers for that round here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,183 ✭✭✭✭martingriff




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,218 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    Feel sorry for him. He seems like a nice fella just trying to do something positive.

    With him it's nearly always about the kids and nothing else and he doesn't seem to speak about her at all really.

    Give the man a follow on social media,




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,947 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Because let’s bring some transparency to what the family are saying. Least we all deserve.



  • Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    We don't deserve anything? I'm not sure why you think we do.

    Just nosiness on your part



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,947 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Not nosiness. Just want the family letter made public so ppl can see what the issue is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,106 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Maybe just let it go.



  • Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    That is nosiness. There is no reason for it to be made public other than nosiness.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,010 ✭✭✭Allinall




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,718 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    How about no.

    No ghoulish voyeurism for you today.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭Darc19


    There's a certain sum element in society who target family members of people who have done heinous crimes. Andrew himself was and still is targeted by one sad fuccer.

    Her family, who I believe Andrew is on good terms with most of them, have had horrendous vitriol rained down on them as if they are to blame.


    That is the type of scum that is in society and after a recent increase in such behaviour by this tiny minority of low lifes, the added publicity was just a little to far at this juncture.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Gosh I think that's unfair. He lost his children ffs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,947 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,733 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    I don’t agree with the decision not to have him on the show, but what “we all deserve” has nothing to do with it.

    And it has f**k all to do with “freedom of information” either, get over yourself.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    I don’t remember a murderers family having a say about anything in previous cases

    what makes this one so special



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,010 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Yes, unless you have a specific reason for seeking the information.

    Do you have a specific reason?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭Ellie2008


    I’m torn on this one. Her family are very much victims too & perhaps they just need a break especially if they are being subject to abuse which might kick off again after the Late Late. I don’t see any public interest argument in seeing the letter. Her family have been through enough, let them have some privacy. From what Mr. McGinely said they were heavily involved in helping look after his wife.

    I understand for Mr.McGinely it’s a way of coping. He can still do the charity without the Late Late.

    A lot of people are struggling mentally during Covid. A lot of women with post natal depression, OCD etc worry that they might harm their children. The supports for women post childbirth are much much less during Covid. That needs to be a consideration as well. Maybe talking about the case on prime time TV isn’t the best idea at the moment.



  • Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    By the law she is not a murderer. Not guilty by reason of insanity. The old version guilty but insane should never have been changed



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 521 ✭✭✭DontHitTheDitch


    If private members of the public can influence editorial decisions or censor people talking about things they don't like on the publicly funded broadcaster then, yes, we do deserve an explanation. This story is a public interest story.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,138 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    Post up the login for your email account there, let us all have a good look around at what you send and receive. Screenshots of all your text messages, WhatsApps, etc., too. Not being nosey, of course; purely for the noble purposes of FOI. We deserve it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 521 ✭✭✭DontHitTheDitch


    There was a whole program about similar cases broadcast a couple of weeks ago.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 521 ✭✭✭DontHitTheDitch



    Are you obliged by law to pay an annual fee to the other poster? Is the other poster obliged to provide current affairs and public interest programming?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Absolutely bang on the money I'd say. In response to being pulled, Andrew himself has said that he never has and never will discuss anything about Deirdre which isn't already in the public domain. The appearance was to herald the launch of a charity initiative. Reading between the lines, the letter probably claimed that they were worried what would be said, and RTE legal have no spine, so pulled it.

    Hopefully though RTE's stupid decision will yield more publicity for this initiative than any LLS appearance. I follow the guy on Twitter, I absolutely do not understand how he manages to go on, and I'm in awe of him for that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭Fandymo


    I feel sorry for the man, but I think eventually he has to move on with his life. His twitter page is like he hasn't accepted that his kids are gone. I don't think the LLS is the right forum for him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,814 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    I agree. Irish media in general and the LLS in particular is one seemingly never ending parade of misery of misfortunes and terminal illnesses. You would think at a time like now they'd have more things to give people a lift rather than drag them down further.

    Again, every sympathy but I'm sure the LLS is not the only means to publicise his event.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,138 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    I don't know, maybe they are, maybe they're not. But we'll never find out if they're not transparent. Do they have something to hide? Do you have something to hide? Could you send us the same information, please. It's in the public intertest to for us all to see what your motivations are for this post. New reg, multiple posts defending BWPs (or is it BWSs? - there's another unanswered question) position? Very suspicious - we deserve transparency!

    I mean, if you wanted to be difficult and an obstruction to true freedom of information, you could limit it to just all your correspondence with State, Semi State and publicly funded bodies: Revenue, Department Of Health, Social Welfare, hospitals, schools, etc. Our taxes pay for those. We deserve to know what influence you, a private citizen, have on these publicly funded bodies.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    All his children were killed. Imagine it. he can do what he likes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭Fandymo


    Well he can't go on the LLS.

    As I said, he needs to deal with his grief and try to move on with his life, or he'll end up driving himself demented.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,218 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    From what I remember the mother from Kilkenny who's sons were killed by there father was on the Late Late.

    I'm fairly sure the lady from Charville who's sons were killed by their brother was also on the Late Late.

    Similarly the woman from Ballycotton who's kids were killed by their dad also appeared on stuff on RTE over the years.

    There's being a few other cases people who've appeared on programs over the years.

    Now some cases it was simply murder and other mental health also played apart.

    So, you do wonder will letters from families change what RTE airs in the future.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    But how can he do that? It's easy for someone not in his situation to say, but just try to imagine the horror. All of his children - every one of them, gone. By their mother. How would anyone move on? It can't be possible. It's only recent also. And he is likely already attending therapy. Any bit of moving on will probably take years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,039 ✭✭✭Gusser09


    All depends what was in the letter. We'd need to see that.


    Shocker of a decision from RTE based on what we have heard though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    The late late was meant to be a light entertainment show, but week in-week, week-out that ghoul Tubridy has some awful tragedy on it. It's exploitative tbh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,218 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    The strange thing is whilst the Late Late Show is a misery feast they've aired people who just wants to talk about grief, how the killer is evil, etc.

    This fella from my understand just wanted to talk about his kids and then to promote charity to help other kids.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 521 ✭✭✭DontHitTheDitch


    Since when? It has light entertainment content but it has also dealt with taboo social issues since the 60s.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭Ellie2008


    Maybe it was a decision from sheer compassion. Maybe her family just mentally can’t take anymore. Mr.McGinely has said her family were involved in her care. Maybe they feel horribly guilty, which wouldn’t be warranted but guilt is often not rational. Maybe one of them can’t cope or their kids are getting abuse in school etc. We live in a small country. I feel really sorry for all of them.

    This case has gotten a ton of publicity. I completely understand that Mr.McGinely is in an a horribly unique situation in that he has lost in entire family at once. I understand that charity work gives him a purpose & think the snowman colouring is lovely.

    At times the Late Late is just too much sadness. We are at the height of Covid again. A bit of random celeb nonsense would do us good.



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