Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

I wonder which will take priority, the boosters or vaccinating 5-11 year olds? We'll hit our capacity so choices will need to be made presumably

I guess the question is whether the current vaccines for children had longer trials in order to fully flush out unknown longterm side effects.

I mean they're currently running at 1.5 times the death rate that we are. (Based on the last 7 days) So they are worse off.

It's pure fiction at this stage. Numbers are dropping in hospitals. Any further restrictions if recommended by nphet need to rejected by government and questioned by the people.

Those vaccines last longer than 3 months,not a fair comparison really

That's pretty stark. Forget about NPHET, the HSE or the Government, none of them would particularly encourage you to follow their advice but that stat alone should be enough for every person, without a medical excuse, to get jabbed immediately. It is pretty outrageous than anyone, without a medical reason they can't, would hold out now. Clearly vaccines won't stop you getting or spreading covid, but the evidence they hugely reduce risk of serious illness and death is irrefutable. I don't care if I get labelled a fascist for saying this, but if ICUs get to the stage (I doubt they will as it happens) where there is a choice between an unvaccinated by choice covid person and a patient with some other issue, both needing a bed, then the unvaccinated person has to drop down the queue as far as I'm concerned. That poor person who lost out on a transplant this week is the perfect example of that (unless there are facts around that I don't appreciate).

But according to Tony and Ronan, Tom, Dick and Harry are right!

I posted this earlier in the restrictions thread.

I'm a teacher in primary school and also a mother to school going kids. The thoughts of having to make kids wear masks does not sit right with me. Teachers are reporting problems starting to emerge in children as they can't see the teachers face when they are learning sounds in the infant end and also problems with language development. These issues will persist and have huge impacts on children in later years. When will someone say stop? Kids should be left alone. How is it worse for my children to sit in a classroom all day than invite kids over to play with them. The pod/bubble idea only exists in Norma's head. The reality is so much different.

Totally agree the outcome of this is going to have repercussions for years to come. And they already huge waiting lists are only going to get longer.

Whats the actual point of NIAC?

They will and have always just followed what the EU regulators have approved.

Are they just another quango or do they serve a purpose?.

That unvaccinated in ICU stat is fairly damning. 10s of beds that could be available for cancer and transplant patients, accident victims, etc. taken up by unvaccinated people.

You will notice also when cases are discussed in kids they NEVER mention hospitalisations or deaths, because they dont exist and anyone young with covid issues has other serious complications far and above covid.

There are far more threatening illnesses out there for kids like RSV that actually result in hospitalisations and deaths yet we dont apply the same measures to them.

And we should also investigate the possibility of high level herd immunity in school kids because of the Governments decision to stop contact tracing and massive asymptomatic infection in enclosed environments. Be good to see a study of antibody presence in school kids.