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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    They should just ignore it Stephen, that'll make it go away for sure.



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,251 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Great attempt at sarcasm. Who says ignore it ? Report on it, but be accurate, it's ok to say 'we don't know' . Not these headlines of super variant, 500% more transmissible, more vaccine resistant , that's just causing panic amongst some people when none of that is actually known at this stage



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,636 ✭✭✭Doctor Jimbob


    If only there was a middle ground between ignoring it and jumping straight to the worst case scenario.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    I don't see anyone panicking. I went for a walk at lunch break and people just going about their business, no windows put in, no over turned car etc...

    I'll keep an eye out for the panic on the way home in an hour.



  • Registered Users Posts: 692 ✭✭✭cheezums


    Doomsday variant found in Belgium.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 438 ✭✭Spiderman0081


    And everyone who takes that specific vaccine gets a very special covid cert, which gets you into very posh places.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    Travel restrictions to be announced later and will be immediate. Does that mean home quarantine for all travellers into the country along with vaccinated and pcr tests for everyone regardless of where you traveled from i wonder?



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    Germany now running out of ICU beds as minister for health says situation is now worse than at any time since the pandemic started.

    Awful to hear this



  • Registered Users Posts: 477 ✭✭Flow Motion


    That groundhog day feeling is probably one of the more unwanted symptoms of this whole shebang; pre Xmas 2020 a Kent offshoot, then Delta flew by and now a S/African mutation to add to the mix.... seems like this is gonna run for a bit yet.... years probably.... stop/start... jab/jab.... booster.... masks et al. We'll probably be informed shortly that our current fourth wave has its basis in this SA variant. Any wonder why large swathes of Europe are clocking up record case numbers @ present? Sure the Pharma's can reformulate the jab mix but as OP's have pointed out it would be months before it enters our blood system via a needle. We need to have a <global> approach if we are to supress this beast IMO as these type of variants will keep popping up in the most underdeveloped & unvaccinated countries. Tis like all those horror films sooner or later a "variant of concern" might arrive and outrun us all. Isnt this what the scientists were worried about all along? For a virus to survive it keeps replicating and mutating. 19+ months into this hellhole and mutations are still happening? The SA version has 10 receptor mutations compared to Deltas 2 (cf. bbc news). But science will have the final verdict on how dangerous this SA version might be to us all (vaccinated or unvaccinated) one its examined by the lab boffins over the next few days. Suppose @ least the EU is slightly quicker of the mark re. stopping flights etc. but that Belgian case detected earlier may mean its had the opportunity to spread across Europe already. Hopefully not. And fingers, toes, knees crossed our present vaccines provide some level of protection. Oh for a time machine to take us all back to Christmas 2019 b.c. please!!!!



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,548 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Will need to go through trials if it has been modified surely?

    “The earth is littered with the ruins of empires that believed they were eternal.”

    - Camille Paglia



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭Scuid Mhór


    Still too early to say if the variant is good news or bad news, but pre emotive action in regards to flight restrictions is a good idea for now.



  • Registered Users Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    They can skip the bulk of the testing since they won't be changing 99% of what's actually in the vaccine. They'll primarily test the efficacy, and that's all that's required.



  • Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I can see this descending into chaos in 2022.

    Less people are likely to take a booster than the original vaccine. Then with the new variant we might need another vaccine which even less will likely take.

    Governments will probably panic and do what they can to force it while adding more and more restrictions.

    Countries running out of money to lockdown and pay supports.

    We might see a lot of unrest break out around the world. Probably not too much here but other parts of Europe etc.

    What Leo said about a lost decade is starting to look more likely.



  • Registered Users Posts: 204 ✭✭The Silver Branch


    Of course they'd say that, first out of the blocks to make billions more profit. They over exaggerated the efficacy of there product this time last year.

    Plus there's the whole idea of a new variant a year with a new vax for it. Some people will have 30 Covid vaccines by the time they're 50. It can't be good for the immune system.



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    No, it absolutely won’t mean that. That would be utterly ridiculous



  • Registered Users Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    They'll be willing to extend the use of the covid cert alright, but the masks in primary schools thing might be shelved until after Xmas. By the time they actually meet to discuss these recommendations it'll be next week, so the earliest the recommendation would come into force would be the 6th December, at which stage there are only two weeks left in school. It'd be chaotic.



  • Registered Users Posts: 438 ✭✭Spiderman0081


    No trials needed. Pfizer say that their future hypothetical vaccine is 98% effective.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    EU recommending member states suspend all flights from countries where the new variant is detected. Airline industry won't like that.



  • Registered Users Posts: 204 ✭✭The Silver Branch


    Are you qualified to make such definitive statements Seamus? 99% you say, you have it down to 1%.



  • Registered Users Posts: 692 ✭✭✭cheezums


    Do you spend all day on the internet fantasising about covid doomsday scenarios? Go out for a walk lad. Life is pretty much as normal. You can even go for a pint.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,973 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    I mean it's in Belgium. Horse has bolted there



  • Registered Users Posts: 870 ✭✭✭DarkJager21


    The media have completely dropped any impartiality or non-bias towards the reporting of this, Sky News today were treating this like the apocalypse even though **** all is basically known about this variant yet. Our own media are being willingly strung along in the hysteria - just in the middle of October we were told everything was great and dandy - no worries and we'll proceed with re-opening on Oct 22nd.


    We then proceed to get hysteria early this month from the media and NPHET & government over a slight increase in ICU/hospital admissions - fingers are wagged at the evil nightclub goers & unvaccinated, opening hours curtailed but COVID is still the most intelligent virus in history that it knows not to pass school gates - those 30 kids sitting in the same room for 6 hours a day are bulletproof, and none of them will carry it home to infect their households. COVID is to quote a Limerick term, "pure sound" like that.


    Now this week we get multiple NPHET puppets popping up saying behave yourselves or we'll put you all in the bold corner for Christmas - unashamedly hiding the real facts with a poker face - we are ranked 13th in the EU for Healthcare funding and the HSE is what we have as a result. A shambolic bloated organisation that has approx 300~ ICU bed capacity built up for a population of 5 million....The same organisation is telling us that hospitals are in meltdown over the crisis as we creep towards 150 ICU. Serious question - in the event that there is ever a large scale terror attack, for example on a shopping centre, and we have 200/300 people in the matter of an hour needing ICU support - what's the **** plan then?


    Where are the media in all of this and why are they giving the government & NPHET by proxy a carte blanche to treat us all like imbeciles without a second thought? Where is Vincent Browne when you need him?



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭bloopy




  • Registered Users Posts: 7,636 ✭✭✭Doctor Jimbob


    At this rate I'd say the toy show will have a special children's NPHET briefing.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 870 ✭✭✭DarkJager21


    *Ronan Glynn tap dances on to the LL set to a jaunty theme*

    "There's this thing called covid and it's really bad,

    It might kill your granny, or even your dad"



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭Scuid Mhór


    It’s called a variant and there’s one for everyone in the audience, folks



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,636 ✭✭✭Doctor Jimbob


    The audience runs to the doors, screaming, only to find them locked. The camera cuts to Tubridy, grinning maniacally.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,548 ✭✭✭brickster69


    It's only 1% , just a little tweak here and a little tweak there, no drama. Doubt they will have any liability in case it goes pear shaped though.

    “The earth is littered with the ruins of empires that believed they were eternal.”

    - Camille Paglia



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