Interclub 2022 eligibility

can definitely see that side of it too. we would have a decent distance to travel for most fixtures but as a teacher those summer evenings are perfect to get out and about

According to the post I replied to, he already has done this.

Last year there were no rules surrounding rounds. People with just their 3 rounds to get a handicap were eligible. We had at least 2 on fourball team beaten in final that got cut more than 10 shots so wouldnt be surprised if this was changed

If they go to low index then I feel like they will need move limits for qualifying for each team

Are non-competitive rounds now included to qualify for inter-club? I didn't think 3 cards for handicap purposes would be sufficient?

The criteria for 2022 haven't been published yet, but for 2021 it was based on handicap index on the 1st January. Three initial handicap cards give you an official handicap index, so yes, it was sufficient this year.

Initial handicap allocation is done on more than just three casual rounds. Other factors are taken into account before the handicap is allocated. I have very seldom taken the calculations from three cards without adjustment.

I hope its the same for the Connaught Competitions too. Lads building their handicaps since the summer for nothing makes me happy.

Could anyone figure out where this scenario falls

We've a player who joined last year , got a handicap index of 9.0 (course handicap 10)

In his second competition had 41 pts. (Score diff =3) At that stage as he'd only couple cards on system so it took best score minus 2 to calculate index. As a result his handicap was then down to 1.0

During summer & autumn it's risen steadily to now be 5.4

He still hasn't 20 rounds on record (17 at present)

Where would he stand in relation to inter club?

Basically does 1.0 count as lowest handicap? Without 20 rounds how does it work fairly. In reality it was a false handicap as he got caught for a good round so early. He's been nowhere near it since then. I would say eventually he'll be a solid player around the 6-7 mark

Thanks.

So he'll probably really have to wait until 2023 to play inter club competition

It's just a small flaw in it, if a player plays a great round early it can give a low index that's a bit lower than reality

Ya it's true. I suppose it just feels harsh given that his rounds since haven't been anywhere near it. I know lads who've played with him and they said he's genuinely a 6 ish level.

He went from 9.0 to 1.0 in one round.

But as you said the system can't predict what's to come. It's just a bit unlucky that the excellent round came when only one card was counting. If it had come at a later stage when it was averaging with other cards it might have worked better. I'd say it made his summer difficult playing off a low index without being able to really play to that level

I see the eligibility is only having a HC index on the 1st of January. Has the rule of having to play 4 qualifying rounds the previous year gone?

Does anyone know are the competition formats staying the same as last year or will they revert to what they were before??

By that I mean is every comp going to be a knockout style again or will the likes of Pierce Purcell, Jimmy Bruen, etc go back to being a one day qualifier with top teams having a playoff the following day??

Our club will only decide what to enter based on this as if every comp is a knockout we don't have big enough panels to enter them all as we'd be asking a lot of the same players to play in multiple comps which is too time consuming

Thanks. That's exactly what I was thinking alright. We went well in the Barton last year and to play the Jimmy Bruen would have been fielding the exact same team. Too much to ask of lads to do both so we just pulled out of the Bruen. Probably won't enter it at all this year sadly

When are the draws for these comps likely to be made?

Any reasoning for such a massive difference in the voting percentages for the home / away options? Munster the big outlier compared the the rest.

In both clubv1 and Handicapmaster you can run these reports very easily. Do you know what system your club runs ?

Golf Ireland sent the following late last week

Updates to Inter-Club Team Members’ Report

To: Club Communication Officers, Honorary Secretaries and Managers

Golf Ireland has received some feedback from a number of club administrators and subsequently we have worked with our developers to introduce significant new functionality to the Inter-Club Team Members’ Report.  

These updates will allow clubs, for the first time, to obtain a list of all members directly from the central database with their lowest handicap index during the period 1/7/2021 to 1/1/2022.

To obtain a list of all members with their Lowest Handicap Index From 1/7/21 To 1/1/2022, club officials should access the Reports tab on the Clubhouse. In the Handicapping Reports section please choose Inter-Club Team Members.

In the search boxes, captains/manager can select an individual member by typing in their name or leave blank if captains/managers would like to extract a list of all members.

Once a name is added or the box is left blank, choose View in Excel. This will export an Excel file to your downloads. Once opened you can sort the data by Handicap using Column G (Lowest Handicap Index From 1/7/21 To 1/1/2022) or Gender using Column F (Gender)

THINGS TO NOTE:

• There is no automatic filtering by gender. If this is required for different selector groups or competitions, export to Excel and sort by the gender column.
• Members still with a pending HI have been excluded from the return of all members.
• For the return of all members, it is important to note that in a small proportion of cases, the lowest HI is estimated. It is therefore recommended that club selectors do a second, individual lookup, for potential members who seem to be just inside or just outside a selection criteria based on the lowest HI on the all member report. 
• If any player you select as the answer “no” in column I (Was Live On 01/1/2022 ) and/or if a Club has made a manual adjustment after 1st of January, the club should contact their Golf Ireland Regional Office immediately, and no later than 10 days before the first match in which such players will compete, to confirm whether such player(s) are eligible to compete in the competition.”

I sincerely hope so. Some of the teams from the last few years have been nothing short of a disgrace to the game.

Considering some of these teams are regular winners over the last 10 years you wouldn't hold out much hope. The integrity of those comps is long gone.

Any idea when the draws are going to be done, they seem to be late this year?

I was just going to post asking about draws.

do we even have dates or formats yet?

Very late this year. Hoping Munster draw will be released soon..

I presume at this late stage, fixtures and dates will be all published at the same time? the silence from Golf Ireland is frightening

Leinster draws are up on the Golf Ireland website now. Hopefully the other provinces will follow shortly

Must be working through them. Ulster wasn't up a while ago so should see them all soon