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The Omicron variant

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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,672 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    They're producing a candidate vaccine in case it's necessary. The candidate is one of 3 options they are looking at, starting with an additional dose of their current vaccine. They haven't even analysed the variant yet.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,866 ✭✭✭daheff


    Maybe they know how to do it this time?


    40 day quarantine strictly enforced for anybody coming onto the island. Plus 3 pcr tests of 5 days. All at incoming person's expense.


    No bloody whinging about staying in a small hotel room etc. Know what the situation is before you come. Nobody forcing you to come. Breaking quarantine is automatic return to country of origin..


    Maybe that'll keep these variants out?



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke




  • Registered Users Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    On the upside, we'll all be well versed in the Greek alphabet by the time the pandemic finishes. I've always mourned the fact that schoolgoers nowadays are denied a thorough grounding in the classics.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,031 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Yes maybe we should follow new Zealand who are covid free, no wait even they said zero covid is impossible

    .



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  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 76,524 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭blueythebear


    The incredible speed with which they are moving on this suggests its potentially a big issue.

    First case was 9th november. The WHO got its first report of it 2 days ago and they have already labelled it a variant of concern. Travel restrictions are already in place. This is not going to be pretty.


    Think its high time we crack each others heads open and feast on the goo inside.



  • Registered Users Posts: 86,747 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Has hit Belgium, more transmitted than Delta apparently

    Roll out vaccines and boosters faster



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    No virus wants to kill its host, so this is the end state, hopefully we are there



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,886 ✭✭✭jj880


    Boyzadear. Might be nothing to worry about but Im happier to be gettin my booster 1st week in December after hearin this.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,866 ✭✭✭daheff


    Pandemics have been quarantined out of existence in the past. Where do you think the word quarantine originated from?


    But you have to go hard and stay strong. And you need the people behind you to do that too.


    Eventually we will all get so fed up of people being sick, dying and rolling lockdowns that something like this will happen to stop it.


    Fully effective Vaccines might happen first though, but until they do I can't see any other option.



  • Registered Users Posts: 693 ✭✭✭cheezums


    They really shouldn't have named it Omicron. it's just ridiculous. like something out of a cheesy sci fi computer game.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,719 ✭✭✭✭astrofool




  • Registered Users Posts: 544 ✭✭✭agoodpunt


    name sounds like a movie



  • Registered Users Posts: 930 ✭✭✭Jakey Rolling


    Next one would be the "Pi" variant.

    That should confuse a few people, and possibly cause a precipitous downturn in the sales of pies 😜

    100412.2526@compuserve.com



  • Posts: 1,263 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Agreed. ZX Spectrum 48K game of the year, 1983 type of vibe. I blame the Ancient Greeks.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭charlie_says


    Excuse me, I can't see the link to merch store anywhere on this page?

    I want to get the "I knew about the Omnicron variant before it was everywhere" and also "Ask me about ICU numbers" t-shirts.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,812 ✭✭✭SouthWesterly




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Valhallapt


    With an 11 day incubation period it is almost certainly here already and actively spreading. I’m sure we’ll detect it within the next few days



  • Registered Users Posts: 842 ✭✭✭Hego Damask


    Dissapointed in you wibbs, your posts are usually spot on and full of sense, but have to disagree with you here ...



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  • Registered Users Posts: 842 ✭✭✭Hego Damask



    while (true) {

    lockdown + months and months of trials .. and lets get the boosters out and then we open up ..... and in the meantime another variant(s) emerges ..... lets work on another specific booster - lockdown + months and months of trials ....and lets get the boosters out and then we open up....

    }



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    Nah Rocky 7= Creed 2, Adriene's been dead 20 years



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 3,183 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dr Bob


    Omicron ? I refuse to die from a disease named after the system Lurr from Futurama came from



  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 76,524 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    It will be abbreviated to the 3.1415926535897932384626433.... variant



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,242 ✭✭✭mattser




  • Registered Users Posts: 554 ✭✭✭Apothic_Red


    Right, did anyone listen to the Saffer Virus guy on RTE Drivetime. He's been working on it for weeks.

    It took only 2 weeks to become the dominate strain in his province. Plenty of breakthrough infection too. Still no data on outcomes.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,161 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    True, but as usual people seem to keep their thinking polarised, it's either one thing or the other. The facts are: New Zealand with a population roughly the same size as Ireland has had forty two deaths from covid, with a fatality rate of 0.38(one of the lowest on the planet), we've had five and a half thousand dead with a fatality rate of over 1%. Their number of infected overall is close to the number we've buried. So on that score NZ is leagues ahead of our efforts. Where they dallied was in vaccine rollouts(though not as bad as Australia). Indeed the Aussies with a population of nearly 26 million have had deaths nearly a fifth of ours, even with their screwups over vaccines.

    The other facts are: New Zealand(and Australia to a large extent) are in the arse end of nowwhere, with far less leaky borders anyway and neither shares a border. It was much easier for them to effect a border lockdown than for us as we're more of a hub and closer to the action. On the other hand we could have done a lot more, but didn't. We had the daft situation during the first lockdown where a convoy of Travellers coming from the UK, which was pox central at the time, who entered the country via a port, caravans in tow, who travelled the country, through god knows how many roadblocks and set up camp in the Curragh, government land. While the rest of us had to explain to Guards why we were going to the shops. You couldn't make that level of incompetence up.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,161 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Pandemics have been quarantined out of existence in the past. Where do you think the word quarantine originated from?

    Italian city states, but quarantine had limited success, save for where small villages were cut off and left to fend for themselves and mostly die. The tactic certainly helped limit spread but almost never stopped plagues. It was a very useful part of a multipronged approach. Pandemics in pretty much every case burnt out of their own accord. Either through mutating to a lesser pox, or by running out of hosts to infect as people either recovered and were immune or dead. Innoculation and vaccination then became another extremely valuable approach as it sped up the running out of hosts to infect thing. The problem with the Woo Flu is the vaccines while certainly reducing transmission don't stop it enough so there are "leaks". If for example smallpox was found in a nurse in Cork and the authorities jumped in quickly and vaccinated her close contacts, the chances of it being contained are very high. That's how we got rid of that scourge, not by vaccinating the world, but by ringfencing outbreaks with vaccines. That wouldn't work with covid 19 and the current vaccines.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 102 ✭✭McGarnigle2020


    The Indo yesterday reported that a tweaked vaccine could be developed within 6 weeks and can be rolled out within 3 months.

    Can anybody explain why this wasn't possible with Delta? We keep getting told it was the silver bullet if only pesky Delta hadn't arrived, and that for Delta it's more of an own brand discount band aid that needs regular reapplying.

    A cynic might suggest its efficacy to the Wuhan and Kent variants was overhyped, but now that they apparently don't exist this is a handy get out excuse.

    I also don't quite get how the old variant seems to die out when the new one arrives. The Wuhan and Kent variants apparently no longer exist. How is that?

    More of the strange science of the Covid era.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 207 ✭✭BuildTheWall


    We can go back to normal once 100% of the population get their 3 Omicron doses! 😒



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