Car drives into Christmas parade in Waukesha, 6 dead

Is someone still trying to say that white people in the States are 'third class citizens'.

This is hilarious BTW.

America has a problem alright. And it's poverty, its the gap between rich and poor and the trampling on basic human rights.

It most certainly not that white people are third class citizens. That's absolutely fabricated nonsense. And frankly it's fabricated nonsense to keep the afore mentioned wealthy where they are. Blatant manipulation of poor people to give them a constant enemy aiming down and not looking up. Folks like yourself propagate and fall for it every time. Kind of genius in a way preying into the base instincts of humans.

He led with the very fine people bit. If he left that out, and said this bit, we wouldn't be discussing this, but he didn't, and we are.

This thread has become a little insane. Only pages ago I was decrying the change in the definition of racism, now we are all "blacks and whites" as if they are homogenous groups. Don't let the minority who get exposure in media frame your views on race. It's so much more nuanced. For example take Ethiopia, there is a Jewish society there that stretches back millennia, there is a large black Caucasian community there. And obviously the huge differences between east west north and south Africans. Then there's the difference between recent African immigrants to America and the African American who is descended from forced slavery. I am white Irish bit I would say I have more in common with a Tunisian immigrant than some white American descendant of a puritan. The "blacks and whites" view of the world is nonsense. The cultural legacies are far more complex than that. It's so lazy that we categorize in this way.

Tbf, not all white people are, but it it a class thing. A white person living in a trailer park in Alabama or Mississippi barely even qualifies as third class tbh. Jeff Bezos obviously not. Issues are more class than race based but the rich would rather us focus on each other and not them.

Don't forget the racist policy that his administration enacted and blocked by 3 different courts which has been described by one of the courts as unconstitutional as “the program is based entirely on the race of the farmer or rancher.” As I've said, he needs to stop trying to appease the minority progressive element in the party.

You're all over the place now, you're going down paths not even Fox News is staying away from.

I don't think he's a Black Supremacist, the NY Post posted an extensive article on his criminal history and made no such suggestion.

What are you talking about Biden and links to the KKK? Are you talking about the debunked claim that he gave a eulogy for a former Grand Wizard? Do you think Biden is guilty for having given a eulogy to someone who served on Capitol Hill for 57 years? That's about as tentative a link as the influence Trumps father had on him and his supposed comfort in KKK circles.

No. And apparently it's not enough for most in the media either, including Fox News and the NY Post, whose history would suggest they'd go to town on this if there was anything significant there.

No. Rittenhouse made his bed by going out of his way in taking up arms against BLM protestors and being associated with extremist groups.

No. He didn't.

As I said, you've gone way off the path even regular right wing media commentators go. You're posts are fast becoming something there isn't much merit or need in commenting on. Real Alex Jones type stuff.

'No. Rittenhouse made his bed by going out of his way in taking up arms against BLM protestors and being associated with extremist groups.'

Quite simply an outrageous take.

So you are agreeing with biden that Rittenhouse is a white supremacist?

Marijuana is the real killer

The use of cannabis is an observation by Peter Hitchens and others and while health risks are remarkably limited, cannabis is not completely harmless but difficult to quantify over other factors using multivariate regression (e.g. combination of drugs, alcohol, poverty, upbringing, personality etc, etc,), there have been discussions elsewhere on the forum about the long term effects of regular consumption of this drug and others, is it a symptom or significant contributor?. How did Mr. Brookes get to the state he did to kill all these people? I have outlined previously why there is no reason this event can't happen in Ireland, it would be better try and figure out how this man became a mass killer, otherwise the door is open for the next malevolent incident.

For reference Eric Harris was one of the Columbine shooters and was on anti-depressants.

The Full Story Behind Columbine High School Shooters Eric Harris And Dylan Klebold

Revealed: Massive rise in antidepressant prescribing

Alcohol abuse and degradation of control has been a problem on this island for hundreds of years, it's at the periphery and we live with it. Anti-depressant use has become more common in Ireland, combined with other drug use and including alcohol and the wholesale import of American social customs we may be creating the same conditions at the margins for an angry man to go spare and take a lot of people down with them on the way out.

Mr. Darrell Brooks is 39 years old with a history of violent offences. The question remains open why did he do it and how did he get there (I mean psychologically, not by vehicle)? Even though he expressed racist rhetoric on social media, the fact he tried to kill or injure his ex seems to rule out racism as a sole motive for the killing. We will have to wait until the trial to see if motive can be determined to see if his behaviour matches any known profiles that are likely to predict future behaviour.

Driver accused of killing marchers at Waukesha parade was out on bail following charges of ramming car into a woman

He had bipolar disorder so maybe that had something to do with it.

No. I never said that. I said he wasn't a leader in the KKK, which you said was the case. Stop moving the goalposts.

I'm saying that for someone who was a career criminal as this person was without any evidence or race motivated crime amongst his long charge sheet, I don't think there is sufficient evidence to suggest race was his motivation in this latest crime given he was fleeing a situation where the police were looking for him at the time. Have you evidence that this is what motivated him? Or do you think a single comment or comment, years previously is sufficient to prove intent with respect to a crime years later.

If you believe what he said on a Tucker Carlson interview, where he miraculously had the same opinion on topics as Carlson had before the acquittal, I've got a bridge to sell you.