Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

OK ye want facts and figures?

The population of Ireland under 25 is *EDIT approx 1,650000, the number who died from this pox in that age group? Seven. Actual risk by percentage? 0.0004% Aka feckin miniscule

The population of Ireland aged between 25-55 is approx 2,170000, the number who died from this pox in that age group? 183. Actual risk by percentage? 0.008% Again pretty feckin minsicule. And that is a wide age band all the way into middle age where quite the percentage suffer from obesity and type two diabetes and cardiovascular conditions. Take out the over 45's and that risk drops ever further.

The population of Ireland over 65 is 675055, the number who died from this pox in that age group, the age group most vulnerable to this virus? 5128. Actual risk by percentage? 0.7. Certainly higher than seasonal flu, about double so not good at all. However, of those 5128, 2316 were over 85. Average life expectancy in Ireland today? 80.9. The median age of death of all age groups from covid 19 was 82, two years over the average life expectancy of Ireland. Those of 85 plus years of age made up 40% of all deaths. And these are all deaths since this pox showed up including of course before we had the vaccines.

Figures taken from here and here.

It should go without saying, but I'll say it to be clear in case the more reactionary get triggered; every death is a personal tragedy for those who passed away and their loved ones, but let's not lose the run of ourselves here. Covid 19 is by quite a margin the least fatal pandemic in world history.

Isn't it a bit strange that your deemed safe for 6 months after a positive PCR, but only 5 or 3 from vaccines.

Strange indeed, given it's been found that antibody levels and immunity appear to drop in the previously infected and that this can vary by quite a lot depending on the severity of the infection. IE roughly speaking it seems those with a more protracted and severe illness show more immunity. Plus we also hear that vaccination gives better immunity than natural infection.

Much of the boosters stuff came from Israel who were vaccinating early on with mostly Pfizer and they noted waning immunity and higher intakes into hospital among the elderly and chronically ill. The difference between five months for boosters of Moderna/Pfizer and three months for J&J was down to a single study of the latter involving a little over a hundred American veterans, majority male, average age 61, a third diabetic, over a half obese and over a half who required at least one hospital stay in the previous year for non covid related health problems. Clearly representative. Other far larger studies involving over half a million subjects in a couple of countries by Janssen and independents including the CDC in America showed slightly less protection against hospitalisation and death than Pfizer, but that protection lasted for at least eight months and actually got stronger over that time. They also found the best clinical results and protection from a booster of that vaccine came not at three months, but at eight or more. Janssen only started talking about boosters after Pfizer did. At the time that boosters were mooted, Janssen released their study that said all was pretty good at eight months. So which study is the more accurate one?