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Zero-Cool · 26-11-2021 6:51pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118228099#Comment_118228099

Overcooked 1 & 2 for 25, good price?

https://www.gamestop.ie/Switch/Games/78363/overcooked-and-overcooked-2

26-11-2021 7:08pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118228140#Comment_118228140

The digital version of 2 is 25 on its own.

You might find this price tracker website useful.

https://www.dekudeals.com/items/overcooked-2

recyclops · 27-11-2021 9:33am

Yeah year 1 of new gen has been reasonably poor, without gamepass equivalent the only real time my ps5 was turned on after deathloop was during a from software run I am going on.

That being said I sww mortal she'll has been added to gamepass, seems an interesting, anybody give it a go?

Zero-Cool · 27-11-2021 12:52pm

Thanks lads, overcooked 1 & 2 picked up, looks like it will be right up their street.

wotzgoingon · 27-11-2021 11:07pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118217665#Comment_118217665

Well turns out she tires herself out after an hour or so of biting me and attacking me so I was able to play Dishonored while she slept, brilliant game and I just finished it. Time to move onto the DLC.

JimBurnley · 28-11-2021 7:51pm

Got myself a nice One4All voucher burning a hole in my pocket and seriously thinking of picking up a Switch. Mainly played on playstations in the past altho did have a wii too. I think the Switch will compliment my ps5 (xbox too similar) with different style of games and i like the portability option. Also interested in playing some classic Mario and the likes from their snes online offering. So, is it worth it? And is the new oled version the best bet for the bigger and better screen?

28-11-2021 10:30pm

It depends on whether you

a) like Nintendo first party titles and

b) How important portability is to you

I own a Switch and I'm not into Nintendo titles. All the 3rd party titles I can play on Switch I can play much better (graphics, performance, etc) and far cheaper (Switch games are very expensive, including ports of old games) versions on my Xbox/PS consoles.

So really the Switch is something I play when I travel on a train or plane, and even then the battery lasts about two hours so I'd recommend buying an external battery pack. It's handy for travel, but not much else.

I'm sure others will disagree with my view, but that's my experience.

28-11-2021 10:38pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118172103#Comment_118172103

Karl Urban did just fine without removing the helmet. That Dredd deserved more attention

SuperBowserWorld · 28-11-2021 10:42pm

Breath of the wild, Super Mario Odyssey, Mario Kart 8. 3 of the best games ever. Just 3 reasons to get a Switch. And they look a lot better on a big screen. But work great portable too. But,150 quid or so for those games from 2017 or earlier. No bargains in Nintendo land.

Oled version is the best to get if you plan on mainly portable. But other than that not much different to the original version.

J Mysterio · 28-11-2021 10:48pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118237316#Comment_118237316

I actually agree. I got one in 2019 and stopped playing it after a couple of months. Didn't help that the joysticks started to suffer from drift though. Other thing is that most Nintendo titles are near full cost at all times, even for old titles.

Potential-Monke · 28-11-2021 11:09pm

That's really the main reason I haven't picked one up yet, rarely deals and Switch only games stay too high in price for too long. €60 for BOTW and it nearly 5 years old... any other self respecting money grabbing company would have had an upgraded version out for that price now.

28-11-2021 11:10pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118237494#Comment_118237494

€70 on the digital store! Nintendo fans are price inelastic, to use an economics term (price doesn't effect demand). I don't really understand why. I mean, is it really due to exclusives? Other console manufacturers have exclusives on sale after a time.

https://www.dekudeals.com/items/the-legend-of-zelda-breath-of-the-wild

Retr0gamer · 29-11-2021 12:56am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118237502#Comment_118237502

A lesson in economics. Most other publishers produce huge numbers of games. The excess games are stored in warehouses and that storage costs money. Most videogames have a short window where they sell then the sales fall off a cliff. That leaves excess stock in warehouses that are costing the publisher money everyday so they get discounted heavily to shift that stock.

Nintendo on the other hand produce not enough or just enough stock of their games so that they aren't paying for much warehouse space. Also nintendo games often have a long tail off. This means that if a game stops selling, Nintendo don't have much stock to shift in warehouses and if it's a big seller Nintendo can manage the amount of stock in circulation to keep warehouse costs to a minimum. They are very good at this are rarely get it wrong (Metroid Other M was one example of nintendo getting it wrong and being heavily discounted quickly).

So Nintendo aren't being evil and Nintendo fans aren't stupid, Nintendo are just experts at managing stock levels. And publishers discounting their games aren't being consumer friendly, they are looking after their bottom line and getting rid of stock that is costing them money to store. And the Nintendo example can happen with other publishers, for instance how GTA5 kept it's high price due to continually being a massive seller.

AlmightyCushion · 29-11-2021 1:58am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118237895#Comment_118237895

It has nothing to do with stock management. PC games get discounted quickly and they are mostly digital, no warehousing costs involved.

29-11-2021 7:55am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118237895#Comment_118237895

Eh, I mentioned the digital store in my post. 🤨

How much stock of digital copies of Breath of the Wild do Nintendo hold in their digital warehouse to keep the price at €70? Do they have digital trucks and ships to distribute these games? What are the costs associated with maintaining this digital fleet? As a dedicated Nintendo fan, do you find it difficult to access this digital stock? Do you have to queue outside their digital store to get a copy of the latest hit Mario game?

Why do old third party games get ported to the Switch and cost sometimes twice as much? Is that because third party publishers limit digital stock?

I only have a bachelor's degree and master's degree in Economics and my career is in this field, so please keep your explanation as simple as possible.

More seriously, I don't think Nintendo fans are stupid (not sure where you got that from!) but they seem ultra defensive when you point out basic facts. Let's face it, someone asked about the Switch, I gave my honest experience with the device, a few people agreed and you got angry and took it out on me with a nonsensical post about physical stock and a "lesson in economics". Why didn't you just offer your experience with the Switch to that person instead of going after me?

Relax. It's just a video games company, not your personality.

Retr0gamer · 29-11-2021 11:01am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118238121#Comment_118238121

Relax the cacks. No need to get butt hurt, I'm not angry at all. Just pointing out that Nintendo operate differently to other publishers.

The digital store remark is a fair point but I guess it's nintendo keeping the value up on its games across all platforms. But again most Nintendo games have a baseline demand for them that most other titles don't and there's a much higher demand for physical Nintendo titles as they tend to hold or increase their value as they age.

29-11-2021 11:08am

I stopped reading at butt hurt. This isn't Reddit.

Markitron · 29-11-2021 12:00pm

'Butt hurt' in 2021, you love to see it. Someone is going to drop an 'epic fail' next, just wait and see.

And yea Nintendo are serial over-chargers. The Switch hardware was a rip off in 2017, and now they are charging nearly €400 for the same thing with an OLED screen nearly 5 years later. It's like paying the apple premium for a phone and getting Huawei quality. Then again people are happy to pay it so why would they change?

Retr0gamer · 29-11-2021 12:21pm

And that's the really all their is to it. Companies will charge with what they can get away with if people are still buying. Game sales aren't companies being consumer friendly, it's to get rid of excess stock or make sales on products that are no longer selling. And if there isn't a sale or price drop it's because people are will to pay full price. If the switch wasn't selling nintendo would drop the price like they did with the 3DS and N64. None of the companies are your friend and what they are doing ultimately is to appease shareholders.

Markitron · 29-11-2021 12:28pm

I got stung with the 3DS price drop and extremely lucky with the N64 price drop (which went on to become my favourite console ever).

Fair to say they cancelled each other out.

_CreeD_ · 29-11-2021 2:13pm

Nintendo are similar to Apple imho. They know the primary reason people are buying their product is not because they want the best of the best technically, they're not in that race with Msoft/Sony/PC-ville, they want the linearity of the brand and it's culture and approach to their product fields. For Nintendo that's primarily the only source of some legendary IPs (which I personally tend not to like but i recognise the cult is there :) ). They have a walled garden of their own for those experiences and are happy to charge through the nose for it, as long as the fans are happy to pay for it they'll continue to do so.

Retr0gamer · 29-11-2021 2:37pm

They've gotten a lot better than since the WiiU and Switch in other areas. Their sales for non Nintendo stuff has been excellent, their store is a lot more open to developers (which does mean there's a lot of **** on there and the interface is not very good at filtering it out) and their indie support network is apparently excellent since Nintendo US and UK have got more autonomy and far better than Sony who by all accounts can be pretty hostile to indie devs lately. They also aren't charging 80 euros for new games... Yet

johnny_ultimate · 29-11-2021 2:37pm

And meanwhile, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe was the biggest selling boxed game in the UK during Black Friday week: https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2021-11-29-mario-kart-8-deluxe-was-the-best-selling-boxed-game-in-the-uk-last-week

Whatever we think of Nintendo's pricing system (I personally don't find it too egregious, with the exception of full-price ports years after the fact), it clearly bloody works for them.

29-11-2021 2:45pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118239706#Comment_118239706

I personally found the "Switch tax" off putting when it came to third party titles. It's probably one of the reasons I stopped using the console since I can buy the same games for cheaper elsewhere, with better performance.

Retr0gamer · 29-11-2021 3:02pm

Carts cost a lot more than discs and then Nintendo can't sell games cheaper than retail or they'll lose space on shelves at retail. It's not an excuse but that's the explanation. The extra money isn't worth it for portability traded off against poor performance.

29-11-2021 3:32pm

Probably worth mentioning that I rarely buy physical copies of games.

SuperBowserWorld · 29-11-2021 4:24pm

One huge thing Nintendo do is make games that anyone over 4 years of age can pick up and play. A lot of the good AAA stuff on the other consoles are 18 cert slaughter stuff for guys mostly.

Also, a lot of their games support multi player couch play.

They produce stuff that should be technically possible for any other company to produce, but others can't match the design, heart and soul Nintendo put in. Eg Animal Crossing.

For me, BOTW and Mario Odyssey are super fun, uplifting, challenging, super polished, inventive, ... and I don't have to hide somewhere to play them. The whole family can play or watch.

The Raging Bile Duct · 29-11-2021 5:20pm

The appeal of Animal Crossing baffles me. I can't think of anything more tedious.

johnny_ultimate · 29-11-2021 5:25pm

No game has ever had more perfect release timing than Animal Crossing: New Horizons. A cute, low-effort routine game released right alongside the biggest upheaval of every-day life in a century. It was a much-needed sanity regulator during those first months of lockdown - especially if friends were playing as well, as that added a social element at a time of zero socialisation.

I think Animal Crossing is a perfectly fine little diversion anyway - there's something compulsive about a game entirely built around a daily, weekly, monthly and annual clock, that's always changing in small but enjoyable little ways. But it's not remotely surprising it become a genuine phenomenon in 2020.

pixelburp · 29-11-2021 5:29pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118240769#Comment_118240769

Same. I wish those well who find enjoyment out of it, people can like what they like, but it just strikes as tedious chores and busy-work - but with a cutesy facade.

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