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Ulster Team Talk Thread IV... Go On My Henderson...

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    #6092
    awec
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    Maybe they'll prove me wrong but IMO that team is nowhere near strong enough to win this game and Leinster will win it fairly comfortably.



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    #6093
    RichieRich_89
    Registered Users Posts: 1,504 ✭✭✭RichieRich_89


    Is Reidy fit? For me, McCann is far more at home at blindside. 6. McCann, 7. Reidy, 8. Timoney is what I was thinking they should go for.



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    #6094
    Wikidy
    Registered Users Posts: 120 ✭✭Wikidy


    I just compared Ulster to the Leinster team......not so enthusiastic now.



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    #6095
    bilston
    Registered Users Posts: 17,799 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Any chance this match could be called off for Covid or maybe the weather?

    Leinster by 146 points.



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    #6096
    launish116
    Registered Users Posts: 2,443 ✭✭✭launish116


    Glad Leinster are fielding a reserve team!



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    #6097
    bilston
    Registered Users Posts: 17,799 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118226682#Comment_118226682

    Ha.

    I think that reserve team would win the URC!



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    #6098
    bilston
    Registered Users Posts: 17,799 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118226012#Comment_118226012

    In a combined XV I'd say McCloskey over Frawley (but Leinster fans would no doubt go for Frawley, but they are completely different types of player so in a way a pointless comparison) Timoney over Penney, Herring over Tracy.

    The half backs are possibly 50/50 calls, but even then McGrath should be a lot sharper than Cooney and to be honest I'd probably rather have Ross Byrne at 10 than Billy. Billy may be capable of producing something that Byrne can't, but I'd take Byrne's solidity every day of the week.

    O'Connor v Molony is close as well.

    It's a good test for Hume, he held his own against Henshaw and Ringrose in the Bungle Cup last year, so hopefully Ireland camp has given an extra bit of confidence that he can be the equal.of these guys.

    Although as interesting as the centre battle is on paper, it's an unfair battle when you compare the packs.



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    #6099
    Paul Smeenus
    Registered Users Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus


    Dunno if I've the stomach to watch this.



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    #6100
    Locke_Lamora
    Registered Users Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭Locke_Lamora


    We're gonna win.



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    #6101
    launish116
    Registered Users Posts: 2,443 ✭✭✭launish116


    Never noticed Tom Stewart on the bench! At least that’s one positive to take from the game!



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    #6102
    Paul Smeenus
    Registered Users Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus


    With the Baa,-baas game cancelled, Vermeulen presumably turns up better rested and - crucially - not injured.



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    #6103
    Locke_Lamora
    Registered Users Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭Locke_Lamora


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118232454#Comment_118232454

    He still has to make the trip over, so there's still time to do an acl or two in.



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    #6104
    Locke_Lamora
    Registered Users Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭Locke_Lamora


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118227783#Comment_118227783

    Well well well...



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    #6105
    Locke_Lamora
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    Hume and Timoney were the standouts for me and I think that was McCann's best game for us, he wasn't eye catching but the workrate and carrying was there. McIlory looked very composed running it back as well.

    Loved the aggressiveness in defence and how many errors we forced, but when they got into their stride our shape bent very easily.



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    #6106
    awec
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118233756#Comment_118233756

    Ill never doubt you.



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    #6107
    Akrasia
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118233771#Comment_118233771

    The scoreline flattered Leinster tonight. Great performance from Ulster.

    Cooney understandably a bit rusty coming back from Injury but out of the 2 teams, the ulster Halfbacks were comfortably better than Leinster's. Hume was outstanding at 13



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    #6108
    Wikidy
    Registered Users Posts: 120 ✭✭Wikidy


    I wasn't expecting that performance. The defence was top drawer. Forced so many errors. A very simple gameplan, don't let Leinster into the Ulster half, simple 1 out runners and win collisions.

    Is it just me or is Timoney looking more and more like a new David Wallace? With performances like those, he should be in the mix for the 6 nations, especially with the attrition rate of the back row.



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    #6109
    Locke_Lamora
    Registered Users Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭Locke_Lamora


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118238706#Comment_118238706

    Personally, I never thought Timoney would get to the level he's been playing at recently. I would point out that Connors played well for Leinster on his first game back from a long term injury, and he was ahead josh VDF last year for Ireland.



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    #6110
    bilston
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    Yeah, Timoney has hit a level I didn't think he had in him. It goes to show that talk of player ceilings etc is sometimes OTT.



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    #6111
    bilston
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    I thought Marty Moore, Timoney and Hume were the standouts on Sat.

    But also honourable mentions to McCann, McCloskey and McIlroy and Rea and Doak both had good games off the bench. Burns as well actually was decent.

    It was a well deserved win. Some interesting tactics both with ball in hand but also our kicking which Darren Cave was pointing out was neither long or short, it was in that awkward nomansland and poor old Jimmy O'brien had a tough night.

    Obviously the lads will need to back it up next week and in the grand scheme of things Leinster were missing a lot more players than we were, although in fairness by my reckoning we were missing at least 11 internationals!

    McGrath

    Roberts

    O'Toole

    Henderson

    Murphy

    Reidy

    Vermuelen

    Addison

    Stockdale

    Marshall

    Baloucoune



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    #6112
    Paul Smeenus
    Registered Users Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus


    If you'd told me that we'd take four points from the away interpros from Leinster and Connacht, I wouldn't have batted an eyelid. But winning against Leinster in Dublin, for the first time in eight years, denying them a losing bonus point, is the best possible way to come by those four points. Dan can insist there's no monkey on anyone's back, but Hume was quick to point out after the game that he'd never won any game in Dublin. I think being in the Ireland camp has had an appreciable affect on the drive and confidence of both he and Timoney.


    As well as those two, thought Burns was better than he has been for a while, Doak was completely unfazed by being brought on for the last half an hour, ReaJea was very good (reminded me of Chris Henry in the way he played) and I think that's one of the best performances I've seen out of Warwick. McIlroy is just quietly very good. Thought he was better than any of the Leinster back three.


    The win will have been excellent for morale - but coming as it did after four weeks of stewing at being being manshamed by Connacht, I think feet will still be firmly on the ground.


    So now - Vermeulen arrives in Belfast having had a nice rest last weekend, and jack McGrath is all but back. Hopefully Baloucoune, O'Toole and Roberts are all buoyed by their international experiences as well. We have a long string of tough games, but I'm pretty hopeful we can make a mark for ourselves.



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    #6113
    awec
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    In an odd turn, there are only 2 league games between now and the reverse fixture against Leinster. We have Ospreys away, Connacht Home, Leinster Home, Munster away.

    We need to back this weekend up and make sure it wasn't for nothing. Bonus point wins against Ospreys and Connacht are required. We need to beat Leinster at home, and get at least a LBP in Thomond.



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    #6114
    Dubinusa
    Registered Users Posts: 8,527 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    I thought Timoney was a big talent a couple of years ago! He certainly has the athletism.

    Marty Moore is way underappreciated. As is A.O.C.



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    #6115
    Clegg
    Registered Users Posts: 17,139 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    https://twitter.com/Murray_Kinsella/status/1465702864513163274?t=bh2w5R_XrmxQYVuSZ31_-w&s=09




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    #6116
    launish116
    Registered Users Posts: 2,443 ✭✭✭launish116


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118246039#Comment_118246039

    Better than the usual arriving injured signing!

    Hopefully he recovers quick and some rest can't do him any harm after the internationals.



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    #6117
    awec
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    He'll almost certainly not play against Clermont away now since his quarantine will only end the day before the match.



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    #6118
    bilston
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118246240#Comment_118246240

    Big blow.

    But as Launish says the rest will do him good.

    To be honest the EPCR or whatever they are called have completely ruined the European Cup for me, so I'm probably more invested in the URC for the first time ever. Plus I have a feeling Omicron is going to mess the European Cup up anyway.

    Be good to have him fit for the Festive Inter Pros.

    It also means more exposure for McCann who is slowly jut surely beginning to step it up and shows signs of fulfilling his potential.

    Yes I'm doing my best to be positive....



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    #6119
    Paul Smeenus
    Registered Users Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus


    McCann is starting to deliver.


    Just started to watch the game back. At 19:09 you see why Greg Jones has to go off for an HIA - shoulder to the head from Brian Byrne. Extremely lucky it wasn't looked at - I say that, Murphy looking straight at it.



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    #6120
    Paul Smeenus
    Registered Users Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus


    Bloody hell. On the stroke of 48:45 Cooney is cleared out by an out-and-out headbutt from Ross Byrne - a later replay from a different angle (after the kick to touch) shows it fully.


    Leinster should thank their lucky stars they had Murphy...



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    #6121
    Paul Smeenus
    Registered Users Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus


    The difference between Doak taking over from Cooney and Harry B taking over from Ross B is night and day.


    One is a continued precision and awarenesses, the other is a mess.



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