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Santy get a boyfriend...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,410 ✭✭✭old_aussie


    Obviously you'll be taking the kids and grandkids to see it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 Pamsteer


    As someone already said, it's normal and natural and its depiction is a sign of an advanced society.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    This is exactly the point. Santa is for children, young children. Anyone pushing this on them has let their wokery run riot. Using any and every opportunity to push their agenda. Nobody needs Santa portrayed in this manner. What 7 year old wants to see the content of that add?

    What's the harm some of the posters say? There is no harm per say, but what is the point of it?



  • Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Are you suggesting that children should be shielded from the gays????

    Should we hide the fact that there are gays in the world??????

    When do we tell them? Around the same time that we tell them Santa's not real???



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,223 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Its an ad

    Children see adults kissing all the time. The "sexualising a special figure" is just pure drivel and nonsene. If you really believed that you'd want to ban all parents kissing each other in front of their children. There are lots of examples of Santa being a lot more sexual than this. A tiny minority of people are shocked at this.

    The dramatics of this being compared to a grenade are frankly laughable.

    And then you talk about "the real world" - Again laughable nonsense. We are discussing a fictional figure.

    Lots of people outraged over nothing really.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,223 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Lets just ban all kissing so children can never see it.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,140 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    No one uses terms like “pushing this on”, “exposing“, “sexualisation” and “agenda” when talking about seeing a heterosexual couple do something as innocuous as kiss. No one would be concerned in the slightest about children seeing it.

    Some people just can’t let go of seeing homosexuality as a threat, something sinister, a deviancy. Something that will somehow rob children of their “innocence” - implying both that it’s exposing children to something taboo and that it’s an act one can be guilty of: a crime of sorts - maybe not a legal one, but perhaps one against nature. Something that’s ok for “consenting adults in the privacy of their own bedroom” - as if the consent part needs to be emphasised, the privacy part needs to be imposed. They might be tolerant - the minimum requirement for allowing something to exist at all - but they’re certainly not accepting. It’s ironic, because invariably these are the ones who often claim that homophobia doesn’t exist in society, because gay people are “allowed” to marry.

    Fortunately, this is probably the last generation that will harbour these outdated and outmoded notions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,223 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Thats just isnt it.

    Its not though. Your whole - "oh think of the children being sexualised blah blah blah" completely smacks of this agenda and when held upto scrutiny you wouldnt be acting the same way if Santa kissed Mrs Clause.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    If people have an issue with this advert but wouldn't have any issue if it was a Mrs Claus he was kissing, then the only conclusion is homophobia.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Santa in the eyes of most children is married to Mrs Claus, why would he now be kissing a man. Santa shouldn’t be used as a vehicle for woke or life messaging for young children. What next, trans Santa, Santa as a woman, Santa in a wheelchair, Santa with cancer. People die so should we have santa dying.

    There are plenty of other ways to get messages of tolerance out there. Using Santa is not they way to go IMO. That’s just my opinion which you may agree or disagree with. It doesn’t matter really.

    But this add is trolling.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,499 ✭✭✭Yester


    If there's a Mrs. Claus then he shouldn't be kissing anyone else.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,367 ✭✭✭JimmyVik


    I hate when anyone fcuk with childrens childhood.

    FFS they have little enough of it these days as it is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    1. Santa Claus is not a religious figure. At best Saint Nicholas would be, but nobody really looks at Santa for a religious aspect. He's a magic man who brings presents as far as kids are concerned.
    2. George Floyd was a real man, like an actual person, who was murdered by the cops and it is certainly not a religious figure.



  • Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Nobody is targeting children. It's an advert for the Norwegian post office!

    And so what if a fictional character kisses anyone? The only people who have issues with this, are people who have issues with men kissing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,524 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    This advertisement isn’t the least bit sexual, it’s more sentimental than anything, which plenty of advertising is around Christmas. It’s not as though the actors are actually frenchying or anything, so calling it sexual or making out that “they’re portraying Santa as gay now” is nothing more than contrived annoyance at the whole idea of anything different - a modern take on a classic theme, blowing it way out of proportion.

    I could take it or leave it tbh, I thought their previous advertisements were better, because they were different too, but they were funny, this one is just meh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    I'm looking forward to James Bond being gay in the next movie.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,499 ✭✭✭Yester




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,747 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Do you have a “thing” for Bond, P? I’m sure there are other films out there with a suave, and handsome, leading man that might do for you in the meantime.

    EmmetSpiceland: Oft imitated but never bettered.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 411 ✭✭Starfire20


    when do we tell the above poster that there's already a black santa, an Asian santa etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,474 ✭✭✭jim o doom


    So let me get this straight.. people have no problem lying to their kids about Santa existing, or other ridiculous fictional characters like the tooth fairy for that matter, and are fine with the loss of trust in them their child experiences when the find out they've been lied to about it up until that point..

    ..but they have a propblem with that same ficitonal character kissing a dude because.. ehh.. woke agenda I guess? while crying "the kids the poor kids".. who they are consistently lying to about his existence..

    okay! that makes sense!



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    So you must strongly object to the song I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    people are often protective of tradition and traditional narratives , even when it comes to fictional characters



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,140 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa




  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    not much of a gotcha moment when I didn’t mention black or Asian. Try harder.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 411 ✭✭Starfire20


    You opined that a trans santa or a santa with cancer might be next.

    the tone of your post suggests that you feel that would be a bad thing.

    just pointing out that theres not only a straight, white santa out there.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,223 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Its an ad. It's no big deal really. Not sure why you are so angry. If you think it's trolling then your OTT reactions feed that so called trolling. Santa is used for ALL sorts of life messaging - selling goods, telling children about how to act etc etc. It's telling that this gets the negative reactions and little or no reaction to Santa being used in other life messages.

    Why is Santa telling children how to behave?

    Why is Santa encouraging rampant consumerism in children?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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