Green Bay Packers Thread

Good call dude, now maybe time to move on …….will we have Rogers for the Seahawks game?

I know Kansas blitzed the hell out of him but it was real deer in the headlights stuff from Love and LaFleur didn't help. With that much pressure coming it would have been simple enough to set up some short cut routes up the middle so he had very little to do bar look straight ahead and make 20yard throws. Throw in the odd long ball over the top when he was bought a bit of time by the O Line to spook KC and keep them honest but instead he had 3 or 4 routes being ran at once going every which way. He doesn't look like he's up to it but wasn't helped by the play calling.

The run game was working and could have stuck to it a bit more I think. It gave Love some relief and we were eating up the yards. I wouldn't be overly critical of Love, the jury is clearly still out on him and probably will be for at least a season after Rodgers leaves if that is soon. Very few QB's hit the ground running from their first game.

Both of those players had time to actually run plays with their top receiver....and more than a few days notice before starting!

I'm not saying he's the next Rodgers or Favre, but remember that Rodgers wasn't a starter until his 4th season, and his debut stats were 18/22, 178yds with one passing and one rushing TD; hardly setting the world alight numbers there either.

Some numbers on first round QB debuts:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.acmepackingcompany.com/platform/amp/2021/11/9/22773084/how-jordan-loves-stats-compare-to-other-first-round-picks-first-starts

So given that most of those were planned starts rather than a rookie dumped in the deep end (and one of them is Justin Fields who you specifically gave as an example of someone way ahead of him), my position remains the same; we really didn't learn very much about Jordan Love from this game.

I don't disagree really, but Fields went out to the game with a bunch of receivers he had practiced with and plays worked around him.....he should look like he knows what he's doing! Love got lobbed in with little notice, with one day of practice with the receiver who has been getting the vast majority of the ball. I don't think first impressions were quite as doomsdayesque as some are calling it given that context.

My biggest takeaway from the game, as I've ruminated on it for a few days.....is the D performance down to not having the safety valve of AR12 to bail them out?

I know the O-Line training looks more like a critical care ward than professional sports training, but even with all the 2nd and 3rd stringers, before that game we've regularly been vaunted as one of the best O-Lines in the league.

The KC blitz was intense though; the question is was it an off day, or has the Rodgers factor let to teams not blitzing as hard as they could/would, making it look better than the reality?

Christ, despite my initial post match comment saying we can't read anything from the game, I'm reading into an awful lot.

Bottom line for the Seahawks game is keep in Wilson’s face.

Cannot let him waltz around and get time to set and throw.

Cannot have any of these ‘whiffs’ on ball carriers which yield three oR four extra yards.

Cannot have those big plays on 3rd downs to Tight ends down the middle.

Im assuming Rogers under centre and a Packers win.

Im also assuming the special teams cannot be as bad.

Horrendous game from all the Offense except AJ.....first Seahawks shutout for Russ.....is our D actually good?! Very confused for such a bad game.

I wouldn’t be too pessimistic about the game itself…….a win against a good team is a win.

Hopefully the injuries are not serious.

You always get one or two of these kind of games a season…it’s really important to win them.

What would concern me is the red zone efficiency, kicking game,

Great display from AJD.

Kevin King injured again.. ESB injured. These guys just can’t stay healthy

Rogers rusty….Wilson rusty…… However…….I’ll take the W.

Bakhtiari potentially back next week. Expecting a bit of rust given how long he's been out, but that should be a big morale booster for the offence and a big skill step up for the o line.

It's a fantastic test to see where the D is. If they can keep Cook quiet then it's another massive step for them. The Vikings aren't up to much but Cook has demolished us on his own in the past.

Yes, this is true, especially if Cousins is allowed time and space to pick his spot.

What I like best is the way the D is getting to the QB far better that the past few seasons, maybe not always sacks, but hurrying and moving him around .

Third downs down the middle must be minimized because Jefferson or Thielan will roast us if we don’t be ready.

Getting worse…… need a TD on next drive.

Good win by the Pack vs the Rams with a banged up team.

With the bye week it will hopefully give time for the smaller injuries to clear up and the long term ones to improve.

Defence was excellent yet again, special teams ….hmmmm…..Offence ground game good , pass game…room for improvement.

what they need to work on.

Redzone conversion,..when have they converted a two point try last?

Have to up the production there, field goals Wont do especially with Mason not too reliable now.

secondary have to learn to catch the ball, if presented to them…several opportunities missed to kill the game.

Pretty good on penalties, o lines and d lines held up well….

‘The Dagger’ was thrown at the end of the third, I thought it was way too early…….🙄

He heh, you are quite right but I would plead years of Packers imploding and losing the game for my pessimism

the 4/ 26 against the Eagles, the Brandon Bostic debacle, the Seahawks ‘Hail Mary’ the Joe Montana to Jerry Rice connection, the being 17-0 up against the Cowboys and Jason Garret a replacement QB bringing the Cowboys back to a win.

Even a game around 1999 in Lambeau which I was at vs the Bears when a field goal to win by Ryan Longwell ….a chip shot,was blocked and a Bears win.

Thats why I am so pessimistic and expect the worst, in Packer games.

Ill have to work on it………

And Jordy right behind him and ready.

A. A bit off topic now, but think they will have to ‘have a look’ at this onside kick business in relation to player welfare.

This kicking the ball to roll along the ground generates, as we saw on Sunday two players launching themselves head first

along the ground to secure the ball.Packer player got a right ‘dunt’ helmet to helmet.

Recipe for serious injury.What the solution is I don’t know but best not wait till someone is paralysed to ‘look’ at it.

Ok….. bye week done and Packers ‘welcome’ the ears to Lambeau.

Be careful here folks, Packers performances after bye weeks are not stellar, not at all.

This I feel could be a difficult enough game,certainly not just a case of turning up for the Pack.

I would like to see the Packers get on top and establish a lead EARLY.

Produce in the Red Zone

Protect the f football and keep the penalties as low as they can.

Bears need to be hit early and often as given chances they can actually do damage.

could be a slugfest…….what Packers game isn’t?

Absolutely, how many points did it cost last night, and it could have been more too. Also, defending the run in general looked very poor on the highlights I watched, poor tackling in general. A couple of weeks to work on it yet I suppose, but a worrying trend.

I'd be of the other side entirely, Bren. Exclude a f*cking atrocious special teams and that game isn't half as close as it looked.

Agree 100% that Fields will be a serious QB though, great mix of arm and legs going on there. Doesn't depend on pure physicality, reads the game well. Already a very good player, could be exceptional.....Will Chicago put enough weapons around him to capitalise on that when we're on the inevitable post AR12 down?