Santy get a boyfriend...

To a certain demographic. Ok let's leave it then.

Pick the bones out of a post while avoiding a question.

Kubrick predicted it right all animals are equal some more equal than others.

2021 has shown that obviously questioning traditions is socially unacceptable if it doesnt fit in with a certain demographic.

But the ad has only managed to offend some idiots. The outlets running outrage segments on it are Russia Today and GB News. I'm not aware of any such outrage in Norway who are the target market. What's wrong with the image of Santa kissing a man? Eg Mrs Claus only came about in the sixties and it tended to vary in terms of if she had any prominence in the mythos. Eg I was raised in the nineties and I'm not sure if I was particularly aware of his marital status.

The modern day form of Santa was standardized by Coca Cola. They weren't the first to choose the suit colour but they popularised it. Even his physicality was standardized by them. So guess what, marketing is what set Santa's appearance in your head. His depiction and mythos has constantly changed and evolved. And I don't really see what huge impact him kissing a guy has on it.

Mad that an agenda of inclusion and tolerance in a pretty tasteful ad is being viewed as controversial...

Other parents - equally as good - avoid lying to their kids about many of those same things in order to guide them through then unpleasantness of the world and expose them to it in a controlled fashion. To steal a phrase I read on boards a long time ago - there is a different between maintaining childhood innocence and maintaining childhood ignorance. Children are incredibly robust and they often do not need to be protected from some of the things we protect them from.

So I would not see that approach as a "Vanity Project" to simply say - "I am open to lying to my kids when it makes sense to do so but only if I can justify doing that to myself for good reason at the time".

That is the approach I opted for. That does not mean I am any more or less a "good parent" that parents making the opposite choice. But it does not mean I am any more or less "vain" either.

Parenting is one of those things with many paths to the same destinations. I simply saw no gain or benefit from doing the Santa thing - let alone to justify an extended campaign of undermining my wish to not lie to them - so I simply did not do it. And there is literally nothing wrong with those that do or those of us who do not.

That's very true I suppose.

But why couldnt it be just two men kissing at Christmas time then on an advert?

As I have no pre conceptions of this an neither does many people I would expect.

Having kids myself and keeping the illusion alive I dont want to have to explain this advert to a child not that's it's wrong just where do you begin.

The world is complicated enough without this kind of thing.

What's wrong with it that way?

I have plenty of empathy! What I don't see is how giving a fictional man a fictional wife or a fictional boyfriend is in anyway different.

unless you think that children shouldn't know about gays?

Thank you for "suggesting" that I mind the difference of a hetero and a gay santa.

It's great to be labelled suggestively. If I were to do the same I'd imagine it wouldn't bode well

Again a million miles away from my post. My post wasn't about sexuality originally it was a question on why we are changing norms.

Its suggested that if there was an agenda to be pushed some originality would be commonsense.

Instead on hear it goes back to being bigot if this is even suggested.

And like originality of the whole sexuality rights is peddled out and people are suggestively labelled as bigots.

If kids grow up in a hetro environment thats their norm and I'm glad it exists.

The fact santa is used now is another method for this agenda.

Gay marriage is acceptable here as is it recognised and respected by me and many others.

Why it still needs to be advertised with matches. Pride and generally this kind of thing I dont know.

The world does not revolve around this issue people have bigger worries that this.

Just a suggestion like......

Why would we need straight pride? Heterosexual people have never been persecuted for being straight.

Homosexual acts were even illegal. Gay people couldn't be themselves for fear of ostracisation/abuse, so they had to live a lie or leave for good. And this is still going on in numerous parts of the world.