BusConnects Dublin - Bus Network Changes Discussion

Someone in the NTA would have sat down and actually designed that lack of connectivity at the Hatch.

As far as I know, 52 is not synced with C routes and works on it's own schedule so it can bunch up with any of C route. However, other Cs shouldn't. But I guess it's hard to achieve on peak times without a proper frequency, no cash interaction and still very little priority bus junctions. In this instance the biggest impact is most likely a number of passenger, only one entrance door, and slow ticket validators.

Ye, there must be a lot of novice drivers on the Cs, got stuck behind a C4 earlier between Maynooth and Celbridge, doing about 30-40km/h and constantly braking for no reason.

Regarding the L58 & L59, I know DB doesn't have smaller buses anymore, but running empty double-deckers on these routes seems like a massive waste of resources. I know it's early days for the new routes, but given where they run and that apparently they're not timed to meet trains, I can't see the demand being there. The old bus that used to do the Hazelhatch run was a minibus.

If the NTA wanted single deck buses in a hurry for the Dublin Bus operated routes, they would of just swapping SG/GT to go ahead for a few streetlites.

In an ideal situation; most of the double deckers that are being used for the new L routes at the moment should be utilized on larger capacity routes where there is more capacity to be filled up i.e spines, radials, orbitals, peak services etc.

It is perfect for GAI to use the streetlites for their new L routes as the length of them are much better suited to cater to a specific demand.

The new single deckers on order from ADL are coming with different variants of size to allow them run on the appropriate routes that can be provided either with or without middle doors.

If the ADL 200EV's are known to be reliable & work more efficiently with having zero emission technology. The NTA have made a very good purchase decision to buy them rather than sticking with the streetlites.

Doesn't look like a great start tonight for Celbridge anyway.

I was thinking when looking in the schedules... why 0.00am-4.59am was showing after 23.59pm in the same day but the end of the list, not the beginning. Normally, in other countries, schedules for passengers are showing up from 0.00am to 23.59pm. But it's now left to wonder if that 4am bus is actually meant to be for, let say, Friday morning, Saturday morning, Sunday morning or Monday morning. Or considered as a Friday, Saturday, Sunday or Monday EVENING service (because it's showing in the end of the schedule, after the evening departures, not in the beginning, just before the morning departures).

It really makes me upset and a bit annoyed how much lack of attention to detail NTA has and how little they think through for the passengers. It like anything else in Ireland: ah that's grand, don't worry about that, it will sort it out itself.

I got on the C3 this morning at Tara Street. The stop is close to the traffic lights, someone else posted wondering if it is a temporary stop?

The bus driver was waving at me as he pulled up, wondering did I want to get on, then he said he was never told there was a bus stop there - only in Ireland.

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Tara Street needs a complete revamp anyway, the left turn onto the quays should be bus only and there should be much wider footpaths. There's no need to have cars at all on City Quay, it's not fulfilling any access requirement, simply providing a through route for car commuters, which is not what the centre of the capital city should be. There should be a two way cycle lane on Tara St that continues the full length of Pearse St. And crosses the river towards Gardner St.

You're safe as long as long as you're on a MF/MF or MF/Sa or MF/BH night. In the first case the overlap is exact, in the latter two the departure in question should be double-worked. It's only if you're going from a Saturday, Sunday or Bank Holiday to a Mon-Fri that the departure vanishes into ether.

It's roughly going by the idea that the schedule is split by the working day, in the sense that departures worked by the previous evening's working timetable still follow it. Of course that's not truly the case, as there are a few departures in the C1/C2 timetables that are listed at the very beginning yet are worked by the previous day's WTT. Bus Eireann's online timetables are actually exactly by that rule if you look at the 109A.

My homecity had a curious example when it operated the only 24-hour city buses in Poland (all other cities having separate night networks if at all). For the longest time their public schedule was from 2am to 2am despite actual duties lasting until 5-6am. It took years to get it sorted out into proper midnight to midnight schedules, and then in 2018 separate night routes were introduced anyway: and yet those have their 11pm departures at the end of the public prints...

That's crazy stuff. June 2023 is a very long way off to start the O route from now. What was the main reason to having it's implementation delayed for another year?

Really not happy with C1 between 6.45 and 7.15 so far. The timetable appears to be a work of fiction with 15+ minute waits between buses that apparently depart every 6 to 8 minutes. There must be a black hole they disappear into somewhere on the way from Adamstown. It is just unacceptable and would never have happened on 25a despite its shocking unreliability off peak. Buses are also incredibly slow for some reason. Journey time has increased by 10-15 minutes for no obvious reason.