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Why is Dublin such a shιtty city?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,989 ✭✭✭trellheim


    Jaysis its like Joe Duffy in here


    you can walk down the boardwalks 24/7 and no-one will hassle you , same for OCS or Grafton st. worse that'll happen is someone will tap you for change


    fk sake



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,743 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    It isn't. Some parts are great, some parts aren't great. But overall it's more good than bad.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,596 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    I was just making the point that London has as bad or worse problems, just we air our dirty laundry in some central parts, and even then it's a very safe city



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,068 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Ah yeah. I'd rather be working class in Dublin than working class in most US cities in fairness and they're the wealthiest country in the world. Shame I've never lived in any of the nicer areas that have been mentioned. I might have a different opinion then.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users Posts: 986 ✭✭✭Prominent_Dawg


    There not really places you go to as a tourist though



  • Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Olivia Easy Circle


    It was in the context of countries having socialist or conservative governments.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 894 ✭✭✭Drummerboy2


    One of the biggest issues with Dublin city centre, is that addicts from all over Dublin are corralled into the North Inner City, which is very near O'Connell Street. Outlying areas won't treat any troublesome addicts, this needs to be rectified. The authorities seem to accept this. If they sort out this problem, it would alleviate some of the issues the OP has. Personally, I love Dublin city.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭HBC08


    Dublin is medium size town to London. The two can't really be compared,give it some time,the cultural problems that arise in the UK usually arise here about 20 years later.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,068 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I think my main issue with the place is how absurd property prices are. My mate just bought a nice place in a nice part of Liverpool by the beach for about 40% of what another friend paid for a place in Wicklow that'd be about the same size. It really does prevent me ever wanting to live there again.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It makes sense that London feels safer - it's several times bigger, so problems are more spread out. But there are also less hassles in the city centre.



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ Felipe Eager Tray


    As an occasional visitor from the North, I don't think Dublin centres that bad. I usually stay clear of the Talbot Street / Henry Street area and it's quite nice otherwise. In that way it's no different to London (I've had the misfortune to stay on the Isle Of Dogs) or Paris, where the central arrondissements are great but don't get out of the train around Gare du Nord, for instance. I would agree that driving round the M50 can be difficult, especially when towing, no quarter asked and none given.



  • Posts: 0 Bailey Witty Doe


    The hugely problematic party is north inner city, which you often have to traverse if you are getting train or bus, or LUAS and Dublin Airport. It is hugely uncomfortable at best and sometimes scary. It’s the first part of inner Dublin that tourists see unless they come through Port Tunnel. I sometimes feel that a certain reluctance to build any underground metro in a Dublin is because of political fear of coralling anti-social types there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,162 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    Driving and parking are a bloody nightmare alright. Sometimes I get the train up just to avoid the hassle, but then the amount of times I've been stuck waiting on a delayed train trying to get back to Maynooth.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭LawBoy2018


    It's littered with ghouls. The heroin addicts roaming the streets make things x10 worse imo, especially around Heuston Station.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,757 ✭✭✭Phil.x


    I was in Cork twice in my life, the second time just this summer, and I thought to myself I would love to live there, such a nice place and time had.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭85603


    Scumbags and junkies generally cannot afford to live in the city without our support.

    If we want them gone then we have to stop supporting them to live in the city and instead carrot and stick them out far away.

    Give the accommodation to people who dont commit crimes, and/or have the means to earn the right to the best locations in the country.

    We're shooting ourselves in the foot.

    (as are the addicts, but in a different way)



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Dublin is grand. Every city has bad areas. Every forum has joke posters.



  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭katherineconlan


    Really. Have you been to the CBD's of London, New York, or Los Angeles? They look far better than anything in Dublin.

    The only parts of Dublin that resemble Manhattan or Westminster are in the south side which is quite unusual for a first world city.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Yup, it's grand. Plenty to do and quite safe. Much safer than London, NY or LA. And I can walk around and see a pub or a wall that's existed longer than any of the latter two.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    if you are homeless you go to a hostel ,its free , free food at soup kitchens , how much does it cost to live here?, not much,

    are there not homeless in munich,paris,london, whats the legal definition of a scumbag, ?someone under 40 who wears a hoody and is working class ? you can read articles about people working who are struggling to find any place to rent that they can afford to pay the rent.in the last few years rent has doubled at least for a 1 bed unit.this is not north korea , do you propose sending junkies to a rural area or a prison , every western citys has junkies, is a banker crypto bro that helps corporations pay zero per cent tax by using various loopholes or opening an office in luxembourg not worse than joe bloggs who buys some coke

    70s per cent of crypto transactions are used to evade tax or else to launder money by drug dealers criminal gangs and corrupt officials ,

    look up crypto washing laundering

    why do so many russians buy expensive property in london , cos its a safe place to hide, launder money from criminal transactions and bribes

    many bankers officials retired with big bonus,s after 2007 ,they caused a house price crash by foolish reckless lending which left the country with billions in debt which we will be paying for 20 years from now


    i would expect new york to look slightly better than dublin considering its one of the worlds richest citys with wall st banks stockbrokers and a location of a giant sector in finance and banking finance https://ngm.com.au/bitcoin-laundering/



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Cork is a lovely spot imo. Small but not too small. Close to the sea, close to the countryside. I grew up in the countryside but less than seven miles from Cork city.

    Looks great. And a good buzz. In the summer it's fab - even last summer with the Delta variant restrictions. Fantastic restaurants. Love it here. Property prices stupid though.



  • Registered Users Posts: 506 ✭✭✭Freddie Mcinerney


    Got €2 so I can head back to Kildare bud?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    There are some beautiful old buildings in dublin and squares with old victorian buildings which are perfectly maintained grafton street looks nice with all the Christmas lights and store displays I've never been in New York so I can't comment on that it seems every week there's a post complaining about homeless people in the city centre



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,633 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    And to think that people wanted to demolish Georgian and Victorian Dublin and replace it all with Busarus Lite architecture.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,068 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I found that, while living there there seems to be a lot more really nice people and really horrible people which I found weird. I've had bus drivers get visibly irritated when I asked for a ticket to the city centre and other drivers who gave me free rides and would talk my ear off.

    Weird city in some ways. Very much unique in that regard IMO.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I wonder if that's a legacy of the paramilitaries policing their own areas. The ones up to no good tended to be disciplined by their own community. Acting the maggot attracted unwanted attention.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,961 ✭✭✭John_Rambo


    @Jeremy Sproket can you show me the litter strewn on all the streets on google street view please?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    What you described could be equally applicable in somewhere like Paris. Some people are friendly, others are total pr1cks.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭HBC08


    The last few times I was in Dublin I'd be delighted to be dealing with litter around the place rather than the amount of dogshite.Like playing a very grim version of hopscotch trying to get down the street.

    Most other cities bigger than Dublin I've lived in or visited don't have this issue on the same scale.Yet another tick in the kip column.



  • Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Hey can I have €2 to go to Drogheda? Ah go on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,576 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    Its not. Some Dubs think Dublin is the best place on earth and if you aren't from there you are a thick culchie ejit. well done you were born in the kip called Dublin, have you any other special skills? I have seen them kind of Dubs before laugh at people from the country just because they are from the country, even though they live in a council house in Dublin while the culchie lives in a mansion down the country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,961 ✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Why are all the non-Dubs the only ones using the term "culchie" to describe themselves on this thread?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,068 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Sure but in my experience it was more pronounced in Dublin.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,367 ✭✭✭JimmyVik


    I find most of Dublin is fine. City center is an utter hole though. I avoid that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,067 ✭✭✭Murph85


    Dublin has a fantastic geographical setting. Some stunning scenery. There are total kips of areas and absolutely gorgeous areas. The public transport system is non existent and a disgrace. The amount of dereliction is another disgrace. Oconnell bridge, has tarmac as the finish, in a european capital in a country that is very, very wealthy... The public realm is a disgrace in town... They need far more guards out and about in the city centre... Far more prisons spaces, get them clean, rehabilitate them or if that doesnt work, lock them up...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭HBC08


    Calm down John.

    People from the country in my experience couldn't give a flying fùck if some loudmouth dub self identified themselves as a w@nker by using the word culchie or if it becomes more evident after further conversation with them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,961 ✭✭✭John_Rambo


    I'm perfectly calm, others are frothing at the mouth about their capital city and the lack of infrastructure and money put in to it! And they're right, the city has been underfunded, underrepresented, underpoliced and left behind in recent years.

    So, to answer my question, why unlike the calmer and less shouty Dubliners on this thread are people like yourself using the word culchie to describe yourselves?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭HBC08


    I was born in Dublin and lived there til I was 9.I don't know if I'm a culchie,as mentioned I've been out of Ireland more than I've been in it as an adult,I'm mid 40s now,I certainly wouldnt consider myself a dub.

    Anyway,the general consensus on this thread and its various incarnations every few weeks is dublin is a kip.Neither me nor you are going to change that.Sin È.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Simpleton stuff to say the whole city is a kip.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,961 ✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Born in Dublin and lived there till you're nine? You live abroad more than you've been in it yet you still consider yourself Irish. I'm afraid you're a true blue too!! Not a proud one, but certainly a brother Dub.

    The general consensus on these threads is that

    A - People don't really know their own capital

    and

    B - Dublin is underfunded and there's too much money flooding out of the city to support other parts of the country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 916 ✭✭✭Dramatik


    You can avoid a lot of those issues by not going into central dublin. If you don't work in the city centre, then there's not really any need to go there. The majority of things can be had elsewhere, in areas where you are less likely to encounter such things. I could do my shopping in the ilac or I could do it in dundrum, it's easy to guess which one of the two I'm more likely to run into those issues that you mentioned.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,293 ✭✭✭billybonkers


    The city centre is a joke to be fair. Anything outside of 2km or so from the liffey isn't really that bad.

    Really no need at all to be going into the city centre these days, not much in there you can't do anywhere else.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It's a bit silly to compare a small city like Dublin to those mega-cities with populations of 10+ million people



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭OEP


    It's even just the north city centre that's problematic / not nice. From basically college green south is quite nice, and if they'd ever get around to pedestrianizing it and some of the streets between Grafton and Georges Street it would be a really nice area. Unfortunately car parks seem to get priority.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Dublin Zoo, Guinness or Jameson tour, Trinity College/Book of Kells, Grafton Street/Stephen's Green, maybe literary walking tour?



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ Felipe Eager Tray


    What do you call noteworthy ? For me theres a few good (free) museums like the portrait gallery, the book of Kells, Kilmainham gaol is fairly unique, St Stephens is a nice enough place for a break, shopping on Grafton, nice restaurants around these days, niche places like the gallery of photography .... all these things are similar to places to visit in other cities.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭Snickers Man


    It's not.

    Go away.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 12 otterjotter


    I don't agree.

    I think Dublin is a great place and I would love to live there.

    I currently live in Cork btw.



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