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UK Championship 2021 - 23/11 to 05/12. Eurosport and BBC

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  • Posts: 7,792 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Bit of a damp squid 😁 I wanted to see a final frame decider... I don't think Ricky's black to middle was as easy as Ken seemed to think it was..

    Sheriff marches on... Mon Anthony! He's hardly quaking knowing he's facing Luca Brecel, who hasn't really lived up to his what seemed early potential, a few seasons back..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,024 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    I just checked there he is a pro 20 years. Was in the top 10 from 2014 -2017.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Has the talent to have achieved a lot more than he did, though has had a few issues with his back through the years that probably didn't help to be fair. Eyesight problems too iirc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Couple of absolute pearlers from Noppon in that opening frame. Laying down a marker anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Missing a couple but not afraid to go for his shots anyway. Not overawed in the slightest. Good contest so far.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Enjoyable affair. Ronnie looking in reasonable good nick this week, no guff about dodgy tips or cue actions, just getting on with it. Noppon at least keeping it pucked out to him.



  • Registered Users Posts: 485 ✭✭eric hoone


    Great clearance by noppon to get ahead, could be interesting



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Some impressive potting in this match from Noppon. Chance to turn the screw here.



  • Registered Users Posts: 485 ✭✭eric hoone





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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,102 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Big visit from Noppon, he doesn’t take the chance but Ronnie with a poor shot blows it.... noppon with a dreadful positional shot with the frame all but his, poor safety too. Can’t make these mistakes vs Ronnie

    fûcking absolutely brain dead that they don’t have solid partitions between tables...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Was a strange frame, ronnie lost his composure for a few moments, whether the crowd movement got to him or what. Big chance missed for Noppon though, cue ball control has let him down, long potting has been sensational.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,102 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    What a shot ! Brilliant by Noppon.

    all in vain though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,782 ✭✭✭Cartman78


    Classy clearance by O'Sullivan....surely his title to lose now?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,447 ✭✭✭weemcd


    Ronnie had a few wobbles but he knew he had his opponent beaten mentally and the snooker just flowed from him. If he can keep playing like this he's got a good chance. Classy finish there with the clearance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.


    The host there on the BBC studio with Ronnie is excellent , whoever he is they're not paying him enough



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Definitely seems in an ok place mentally, however quickly that can unravel, and no one left that he shouldn't beat in the normal course of events. Wilson been looking a bit ropey all week, McGill at a push maybe. Shame Noppon didn't make it 4-2 that time, just to see what response we'd have got in that situation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,263 ✭✭✭waynescales1


    He’d be even better if he didn’t interrupt O’Sullivan mid-sentence.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,024 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Ah Ronnie’s post match is always the same ‘not bovvered’ ‘snooker is a hobby’. Everyone knows he does not mean it. Interviewer did well steering him away from the usual guff.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Nice plant to seal the deal there from Zhao. Did well to close that match out the way he did, was sure Lines was going to hand him a one way ticket to shredsville.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,024 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Christy Dignam (Aslan) / lookalike Peter Lines is gone v Zhao. Lines has a young fella that is a pro snooker player. I suppose he wonders ‘how can I protect you in this crazy world?’ 😏

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,024 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Lovely little nifty shot Zhao played on the pink. Thought Hendry was unfair on Zhao a bit. Saying he is supposed to be producing at 24 yo. But Hendry did not factor in Zhao is from China different culture - he has limited English etc.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.


    Is that relevant ,though language and culture

    I reckon if you can play it shouldn't matter where you're from



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Hendry can be harsh alright. Thing about Zhao, he's had incredible hype ever since he beat Steve Davis in the China Open 7-8 years ago so lot of expectation on him. Agree it's definitely a bit tougher for young chinese kids having to uproot and move to a totally different environment. Maybe Zhao is getting there but still think his overall game is a bit lacking yet. Exciting to watch though, that's for sure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,024 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Of course it is imagine if the average Irish young lad went off to China aged in his mid teens. How would he fare? When Ken Doherty went over to England at an older age he was homesick as it was.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,263 ✭✭✭waynescales1


    Hendry and O’Sullivan were both absolutely right, nothing harsh about it. Ding was UK champ at 18, and again at 22. Xintong is 24.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Things have changed a lot since Hendrys time. Players don't come through ready formed as teenagers like they used. Yan maybe, but he's an exception. All these talented kids appear on the horizon and most of them have no clue how to win tactical matches and go deep in big tournaments. Took Judd almost till he was 30 to learn how to be a champion and I think even that's still a work in progress. Zhao is just another flamboyant potter with no defined tactical game, he can definitely make it but wouldn't surprise me to see him turn into the Chinese lisowski, which would be top 16 at least I guess.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,504 ✭✭✭Arthur Daley


    Jimmy or Hendry coming through at 18/19 were the exceptions that prove the rule.

    Even Ronnie, the greatest player ever, had won the following at his 28th birthday: 1 World, 3 UKs, 1 Masters. Mark Williams had won more of the big titles at 28. 2 Worlds, 2 UK, 2 Masters

    I'd say if Ronnie was going through at 28 today there'd be people complaining that he made a huge splash, but failed to really deliver. And to a certain extent that is true in his case, but his most productive years were in his 30s and early 40s.

    Not comparing all these guys to Ronnie or Mark, but some of them will break through to win the bigger ranking events.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Seems a bit like men's tennis to me at the moment, 3-4 dominant players at the top for a decade and more and a generation of kids struggling to make headway against them. Eventually, those great champions will simply expire and others will move in to fill the gap. Just seems to be taking an age to happen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,024 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Zhao just needs a Terry Griffiths in his corner or that type of veteran old school player with tactical nous. All that stuff can be learnt. The raw potting and flamboyance can't be taught.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,102 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Woolaston could do with some table time here, and of course a frame on the board... be difficult coming from 3-0 down against a player of Kyren’s caliber..



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    That's true but I also believe these aspects of the game are hard to pick up if they're not ingrained in you from a young age. Thing about snooker now, unless you reach a final, qualify for tour championship or world last 48, you won't play any multi session matches, as in more than one session. That's probably over half the tour, some of them might never play two sessions in their career! Players are being conditioned now for bo7s which can't prepare you for the mental demands of the marathon matches. I don't know can you coach that either and think it's a big reason why young players are finding it increasingly difficult to bridge the gap.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭Sandor Clegane


    Could see another white wash here, Woollaston not up to much at all unfortunately.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,102 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Wollaston looking ok and capable but bad positional shot or bad pot, missing that straight black... Jesus... he was up off the shot as he struck the ball, looking like an amateur...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Can't believe "woolly bags" is 18 years on tour. Made one final and one visit to the crucible to his name, just over £700k career prize money. Worse ways to make a living, i guess.



  • Registered Users Posts: 485 ✭✭eric hoone


    The comeback is on for Woollaston



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,102 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Another bad shot by Wollaston and Wilson all but home and dry.



  • Registered Users Posts: 485 ✭✭eric hoone




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭Sandor Clegane


    You'd feel Wollaston missed his chance after losing that frame, very difficult to see anyway back now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,102 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    ridiculously bad break off by Woollaston and Kyren looking good for victory

    The inconsistency that’s killing Woolaston



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    3 reds doubled in a row. Got to be some kind of record, get Phil Yates on the job!

    Woollaston had half a squeak there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Intrigued by this match up. Not seen much of Jack this season, results before this week not been great. Hossein isn't always the tightest so should in theory be a good opponent for him. Hoping Hossein continues his good form anyway, if he does he'll go close.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Well that third frame was bonkers. How Vafaei lost that I'll never know.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Very entertaining match. Taking that red on was never the shot for me, was screaming at him to play the snooker. Lisowski is some machine to be fair, though still rough round the edges. Would fancy him to beat Zhou so big chance for him to finally make that much anticipated major breakthrough.



  • Posts: 7,792 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    rerack? 😁



  • Registered Users Posts: 485 ✭✭eric hoone


    Pretty uninteresting line up tonight. All English veterans



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  • Posts: 7,792 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    "Shredsville" Fouldsy woulda said it already..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,263 ✭✭✭waynescales1


    I’d say the organisers are fuming that all the big hitters have been knocked out. I’d say someone is thinking what format will we do next year to make sure Trump reaches the final.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    The bbc will be fine as long as Ronnie stays in it. If he gets knocked out tomorrow they'll probably can it, or stick it completely behind the button, and schedule triple afternoon bills of Coast for the next 3 days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,024 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    I don't know did any of you see Steve Davis in studio earlier today. He was asked to comment on the Masters draw.

    He said something like 'Great draw look at all those top players, many of them wondering how they can get their form back after this tournament after been knocked out early'

    Then burst his sides laughing.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    I did see that but wasn't paying very close attention so didn't fully get what point they were making. He looked strange in the specs, don't think I've seen him wearing those before?

    Dave Gilbert losing at the moment, needs to win or his hopes of being in the masters are dead and buried.



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