Climate Bolloxolgy.

Quoting Ryan, now there's an own-goal, congratulations.

That to me doesn't necessarily say we should stop all beef production if that's what you think its saying. As I rewatch it....it seems to have included the process of slash and burn in the calculation of the carbon footprint of beef.....not much of that going on in ireland...its a complex topic and as good as the inanutshell videos are you couldnt hope to get all the nuance in a 10 minute video

ruminants are part of a natural cycle....they are actually useful for the biodiversity of certain areas ....the video fails to address the potential negative consequences for the environment in the unlikely event everyone was to switch to a vegan diet....the answer doesnt lie in sudden dramatic shifts in diet but an incremental change...it also doesnt lie in zealous total eradication of something thats been in our diet for thousands of years and has existed in some form or other in that time...we have canine teeth for a reason (we are omnivores ffs)

now over intensification/overproduction/waste and the primary producer being shafted to concentrate wealth and profits in the hands of a few.....that is a problem.....that would be my angle on the buy local thing.....cut the real driver of the problem out....or try to over time...farmers can work with nature if they are not driven to work against it and paid fairly for their produce....... but if you pay a guy poorly for his produce and force him to work against nature because of the system he is in then that is the real driver of most of the problems

the video also fails fairly spectaculary in not mentioning that cropping means disturbing soil (tilling/ploughing etc which releases carbon - although there is a mention of the emissions for rice production) and lets assume everyone did move to a vegan or vegetarian diet do we really think there wouldnt be overproduction, more use of pesticides and huge release of carbon that way too, Id argue its potentially much more destructive idea than a mix of grass fed beef, poultry etc etc but paid for appropriately......the video did in fairness did speak about the energy density of food..but I would also wonder how much more crops we would need to produce an exclusively vegan diet for the worlds population given the foods wouldnt necessarily have the same energy density, that would surely bump up the amounts would would have to grow and the soil structure you would have to damage this releasing carbon etc etc

it just doesn't sit right with me anyway...........I see much more beneficial behavioural changes that could and should be made to ameliorate climate change than attempting to make beef production a thing of the past but people dont want to hear about them.

When the civil servants get enough food scarcity, they might reconsider the cutbacks

I think your first paragraph sums up the Irish thinking, as in it's not me it's the bad Brazilians with their slash and burn. No mention of all the soya and Maize based feed products that we use that comes from those same ex-rainforest lands that btw are being slashed and burned by mainly European companies

Absolutely, it boils down to people talking out of both sides of their mouths

Michael O Leary made an interesting comment last week during an interview, he said how Ryanair had offered the passengers the chance to offset the carbon used in the flight by making a voluntary "green" payment towards the carbon. Nobody took this up, people just wanted cheap flights.

Same thing for food, they just want cheap and plentiful. They'll play lip service to the state of the Environment or global warming while chewing on a steak and ham sandwich in the over heated office but they will not pay a cent towards it.

It'll take a lot more damage to the Environment before anything really gets done.

Everyone wants change but no one wants TO change

A great short video from Cammy/The Sheep Game - Just Keep Farming.

https://fb.watch/9DIZIv9KCN/

Had a look on the Opel site for info..

You need to be staying in the city🤯

What about people who have to drive to different remote work sites around the country on different days?

Will they get an extra allowance due to the fact there is no PT option?

Can't you see that the discussion is about Dublin. To hell with the unwashed.

I’d say there’s more people than you think who this scenario applies to.

Construction workers who have to carry their tools with them.

Sales people.

utility workers.

farmers (who have land rented in areas remote from their own houses)

Many other examples.

Agree though more money has to go to PT but I’m not sure should that be through increased taxation.

We should be striving to gain efficiencies in sectors to pay for this, eg the health service.

The health service is very well funded comparatively, yet it’s vastly underperforming.

Throwing more money at it won’t fix it.

We need to make it more efficient, saving money and using this money in other sectors.

+1 and I'm from Dublin.

I was considered a pleb cause I lived in the country (North County Dublin) even though I attended school in Dublin.

That's a crock of ****

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Its actually such a cluster fook by the entire EU energy wise the last couple of years it would make you want to cry. And now we have noobs like himself actually running the asylum it's Just going to make it worse ......it's like a drunk young lad let loose with a AK-47

Wonder when the land was cleared? Saw a graph recently that showed Ireland has the same percentage forestry today as it had 1000 years ago..

And before that we had an ice age, several in fact. At one time an ice shelf extended from the Baltic over Scotland, Northern England and into Ireland. All the way down to Cork where it looked to have ended. Polar bears hunted in this environment in Ireland and mated with what was left of brown bear cave bears probably in Cork. The Irish cave bear dna is still there today in the polar bear population.

Before the ice we had a warm period a lot warmer than today called the Eemian period. Hyenas roamed in Cork then. Hippos were in London. Humans were about too.

Damien'll be discussing the benefits of hippos next..

% price hikes in comparison to 2020 are a complete misnomer. The biggest economic shock in decades. Prices of everything went haywire. At one stage the wholesale price or either electricity or oil went negative can't remember which one. What's the % increase across all sectors when compared to this time 2 years ago. The price of electricity is skyrocketing as well, and is currently at a price that I never thought we'd see. A bigger problem is the stability of the grid. If everyone switched to electric heating and electric transport the whole thing would calve

When though? Thought in school that in was our imperial vagabonds that clear felled for building ships...but happened more than 1000 years ago, its a completely different story.

https://thatsfarming.com/dairy/environmental-commentators-farmers/

The ship has sailed. Ironically it's sailing into Ireland with peat from Latvia instead of harvesting our own. How moving the harvesting from one part of the world to another, plus adding shipping on top is a good climate move is beyond me. There must be a word for it. Bolloxology perhaps!

Nevertheless, such investment is good news. But why oh why is it being done now. This should have been done years ago. Or certainly before peat harvesting was stopped so that there was some work done into alternatives.

Like many initiatives, it's done arseways

University of Limerick already know the answer to that I presume. Not sure why the others got funding too.

It's an acedemias dream this government is.