BLM, or WLM? [MOD WARNING: FIRST POST]

Such a lovely race baiting and divisive idea.

What a fcuking ridiculous post.

Do they have to comment on every crime carried out by a black person to validate themselves in your eyes? It might make a fraction of sense if all their opponents were doing the same whether it be talking about mass shootings, or insurrections, or racist marches or whatever. But no, no need for any of that, but those advocating for black people, they really need to ensure that there is absolutely no way that they can be associated with crimes committed by others of the same race.

You post is actually a perfect example of the hardwired motivations some have to challenge any advocates for a particular cause.

That's not the point. Calling for a boycott of businesses based solely on the skincolour of those who own those businesses is racist.

If a conservative group came out calling for a boycott of businesses because the owners are black you'd be rightly labeling it racist. So, will you do that here?

It's yet another example of how the right and left in America are as bad as each other over there.

What, what?! Calling out racism and violence and racist murderers is "fcuking ridiculous" now?!

They aren't simply "advocating for black people", they are advocating against white people. Latest example - they aren't calling for support of black businesses, they are calling for boycott of white businesses. They are a vile racist organization that is at least partially responsible for that mass murder, just like the white supremacists organizations are partly responsible for white supremacist murders.

I'm sure if there was a white group calling for white people to only support white businesses and avoid those owned by black people that Tell me How would think that was totally fine, just like the above!

They're asking that people don't support organisations that they feel are complicit in their oppression. On that basis, I don't think it is evidence of racism or whatever you want it to be. I think it is ill advised because it allows the Daily Mail and its readers to accuse them of such but they are not prohibiting white businesses from operating, they're advocating that people support black businesses.

I don't agree with them because I don't think all white businesses are guilty of what they are accusing them of, but I don't see it as racist to advocate that people support their own community over another when they feel their community needs support.

I can go further, because I know you are looking to be able to claim 'BLM are racist', there is no doubt that you will find some people within BLM or their supporters who are most definitely racist. But that doesn't denigrate the entire movement or the ideal that people are treated equally and fairly. And if you want to know how that is different to how racist police are viewed, A, police are hired specifically for the purpose of keeping people safe. B - They are paid for by the public, to keep the public safe. C- There is plentiful evidence to indicate racism within policing communities is a significant issue D - There should always be steps to root out behaviour which is unacceptable. None of these apply to the BLM cause, except maybe the last one, based on this story, and I'd be perfectly fine with them having to correct their message.

Wasting your metaphorical breathe arguing with someone who consistently posts in bad faith

'They're asking that people don't support organisations that they feel are complicit in their oppression. On that basis, I don't think it is evidence of racism or whatever you want it to be. I think it is ill advised because it allows the Daily Mail and its readers to accuse them of such but they are not prohibiting white businesses from operating, they're advocating that people support black businesses.'

If that what they believe they are even more crazy then I had already thought.

'I don't agree with them because I don't think all white businesses are guilty of what they are accusing them of, but I don't see it as racist to advocate that people support their own community over another when they feel their community needs support.'

They have explicitly picked out white owned businesses, they could've said shop in black owned businesses but that is not what they are doing, they are calling for a boycott of certain businesses based solely on the skin colour of the people who owned those businesses. Again, if a conservative group was advocating for people to boycott black owned businesses, we both know fully well you'd consider it racist, because it is. They are targeting one particular demographic, it's not advocation it's racism.

'I can go further, because I know you are looking to be able to claim 'BLM are racist', there is no doubt that you will find some people within BLM or their supporters who are most definitely racist.'

I'm not 'looking' for anything, it's right in front of my eyes. And this isn't just 'some people', it's the Global network!

'But that doesn't denigrate the entire movement or the ideal that people are treated equally and fairly.'

So we've still no real condemnation from this blatant act of racism then?

'And if you want to know how that is different to how racist police are viewed, A, police are hired specifically for the purpose of keeping people safe. B - They are paid for by the public, to keep the public safe. C- There is plentiful evidence to indicate racism within policing communities is a significant issue D - There should always be steps to root out behaviour which is unacceptable. None of these apply to the BLM cause, except maybe the last one, based on this story, and I'd be perfectly fine with them having to correct their message.'

I've no idea why you are talking about racist policing..

Really? On the BLM thread? Maybe you should look in to it.

Fight racism with racism.. or something.